From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <455C9AC6.36C3670E(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >That's not how people at McDonald's give change. That's not how
>>> >anybody
>>> >gives change any more, they just give over the amount of money the cash
>>> >register tells them to. If the bill is 5.35, and you give them a 10,
>>> >the
>>> >register will tell them to give you 4.65 in change, and they do. No
> special
>>> >skills necessary or learned.
>>>
>>> You are wrong. It takes learning to know which coins are which
>>> value. It takes learning to know what 1 and 5 and 10 and 20
>>> mean on the paper bills.
>>
>>Ohhh ...... puh-leeze.......... !!
>>
>>
>>> There are people who do not know this stuff. If kids have
>>> never handled money, have never been taught what money is,
>>> how will they know that a dime is $.10?
>>
>>Ohhh ...... puh-leeze.......... !!
>
> You are not thinking. If kids' experience is only with
> credit card swipes, and their parents don't pay using
> cash, how are the kids going to learn about denominations
> and counting out currency money?


Seriously, are your schools that bad?


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <QH57h.6470$IR4.5972(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:eji182$8qk_029(a)s938.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>> In article <8oM6h.10671$yl4.3232(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:98588$455b6c01$4fe757a$19388(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
>>>>>T Wake wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You know at McDonalds they hand over the sum of money they are told
>>>>>> to,
>>>>>> don't you? They don't get told to hand over a "dime." A number
>>>>>> appears
>>>>>> and they give that much money. Same as anyone else working on a cash
>>>>>> register.
>>>>>
>>>>> They know how to add three columns, but they
>>>>> don't know how to subtract three or four
>>>>> coulmns in their heads.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That's not how people at McDonald's give change. That's not how anybody
>>>>gives change any more, they just give over the amount of money the cash
>>>>register tells them to. If the bill is 5.35, and you give them a 10,
>>>>the
>>>>register will tell them to give you 4.65 in change, and they do. No
>>>>special
>>>>skills necessary or learned.
>>>
>>> You are wrong. It takes learning to know which coins are which
>>> value. It takes learning to know what 1 and 5 and 10 and 20
>>> mean on the paper bills.
>>
>>Uh....it may have required an advanced degree when you were a kid, but
>>kids
>>are taught that in kindergarten nowadays.
>>
>>
>>> There are people who do not know this stuff. If kids have
>>> never handled money, have never been taught what money is,
>>> how will they know that a dime is $.10?
>>
>>These things are taught in kindergarten. If a kid wasn't able to learn it
>>then, s/he won't be able to learn it now.
>
> If people never use what they are taught in real life, they will
> not know these details.

If they never use it in real life, why do they need to learn it? Your claim
that parents et al., all use swipe cards to make payments - why not accept
that the days of cash are numbered and realise the kids don't need to learn
it, they probably will never use it.

That said, I think you are talking nonsense.


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <eQ57h.6474$IR4.3247(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:eji26v$8qk_032(a)s938.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>> In article <455C7176.1D023DED(a)hotmail.com>,
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> |||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >You could use some good advice on modern PC hardware. Buffered serial
>>>>> >cards are dirt cheap - and almost obsolete since internal modems work
>>>>> >so reliably now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want an internal modem. I want one with lights that flash
>>>>> for every I/O.
>>>>
>>>>They don't help that much you know.
>>>
>>> What? Lights? Yes they help a lot.
>>
>>You're fooling yourself. Viruses can still get through,
>
> I can see when one is coming in. All I have to do is turn
> the modem off.

Blimey. Dont modern computers have off switches? Mine does.

My router also has lights on so I can see when data is coming in and out and
I can see when data is passing the firewall.

>>even if you watch
>>the lights. Relying on incantations and omens to prevent viruses is a
>>really, really good way to get one.
>
> I have effective incantations. Most computer types do.

VoodooScience.

>>
>>
>>> I've stopped infestations because
>>> my lights were flashing when I had not given them permission to
>>> flash. I am not ever interested in rebuilding this computer system.
>>> EVER!!!!
>>
>>Good, you're learning. Then you should just get a new one, and not try to
>>rebuild that piece of junk that you have.
>
> It's not junk. It has been functional since 1994.

Well. Says it all really.

> <snip> No wonder you people don't know how to spend money wisely.

Not true. You think you are saving money, but that is only because you value
your time and labour so cheaply.


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <1163689355.822964.185390(a)k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> |||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>So who are you then?
>
> My moniker is in some listings. JMF's is in all the listings.
>

Stop alluding then. Tell us. Listings of what? This is USENET, as it stands,
based on your recent posts you are currently as believable as tj Frazir.


From: lucasea on

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker(a)emory.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <A987h.11222$9v5.5862(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>"Don Bowey" <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:C1823FBF.4D1E8%dbowey(a)comcast.net...
>>> On 11/16/06 3:32 PM, in article
>>> Jv67h.6500$IR4.5893(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net, "lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net"
>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Don Bowey" <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:C1813799.4CF09%dbowey(a)comcast.net...
>>>>> On 11/15/06 7:50 PM, in article 455BE00C.DE95D418(a)hotmail.com,
>>>>> "Eeyore"
>>>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don Bowey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd rather have a new MG, but they are not importing to the US yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are these new MGs ?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's made in Japan. I don't recall the name of the company that
>>>>> bought
>>>>> the
>>>>> company. The car carries the MG logo, and the guy who owned it did
>>>>> not
>>>>> use
>>>>> a "type" code (like MGTJ for Type Japanese).
>>>>
>>>> I think it's called the MG F. To my knowledge, they were introduced in
>>>> the
>>>> early 90s, and the company that makes them was thinking about exporting
>>>> to
>>>> the US, but it never happened. I suspect they just didn't want to have
>>>> to
>>>> deal with some safety or pollution control law that's unique to the US.
>>>>
>>>> Eric Lucas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> MG F would be unusual, given that there is already a MGTF.....
>>>
>>> I'm sure it is all the safety and pollution requirements too, which is
>>> fine
>>> by me. I can recall when cities like Portland (Or.) were bleak with
>>> smog
>>> from cars until the pollution laws helped fix it. I haven't seen a
>>> smoggy
>>> day in years and I'm for keeping it that way.
>>>
>>> Maybe I should just give up on a new MG and get a Mini Cooper S
>>> convertible.
>>
>>Never driven a Mini. By me, it's all about handling--it's not clear to me
>>that something that short would handle well. I do know that Miatas handle
>>absolutely beautifully. (I can't remember--did you say you had a Miata?)
>>There are actually several good to excellent roadsters on the market in
>>the
>>US now. Just about every car maker has one, and a number of them are
>>supposed to drive very well. When I bought my second Miata, it was almost
>>an MR2...except the local Toyota dealer didn't have any in stock, would
>>have
>>had a lot of trouble getting one, and wouldn't let me take the one he had
>>for a solo test drive. I drove down the street to the Mazda dealer, took
>>out the one I liked for about an hour solo on the local roads, and it was
>>mine an hour later. I'm considering a used BMW Z3 for my next roadster.
>>BMWs have an excellent reputation for drivability, and I never liked the
>>look of the Z4.
>
> From everything I've read, the Porsche Boxster is the best roadster. Used
> ones should be relatively reasonably priced.

Any car that starts out at $80K needs to be about 20 years old to be
"reasonably priced". 80s-vintage soft German steel is well-known for its
propensity to rust. Thank you, I'll stick with something that I can afford
in the same decade it was built. I also need a luggage rack, and the rear
deck on the Boxster isn't very amenable.

Eric Lucas