From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> >> You still do not understand how the US works. Would it be
> >> possible to push your UK approach through the EU and have
> >> all members accept it?
> >
> >It's hardly needed since the member countries have decent arrangements of
> >theirown already.
>
> You are not answering the question.

It's a tricky question to answer. Impossible even as asked.

In a hypothtical case the best answer is that I think it would be possible -
indeed there may be no need to 'push' for it since these nations have shown a
desire to have inclusive health care already.

Certainly the former Eastern Bloc countries would *expect* an 'NHS' type system.



> >I recognise it may not be easy to deak with the issue in
> >the USA but that's not a reason to not even try.
>
> People are trying. A single payer isn't working.

I think that's because the current US model of that kind of system has too many
flaws.


> >The best place to start is by examining the idea
> >seriously !
>
> People have. A national single payer won't work.

My assertion is that it *can*. That may mean sacrificing some white elephants in
the process though.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


unsettled wrote:

> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> > You underestimate them. These people buy things. They also
> > are quite aware about x costing more than y.
>
> They made the news. Over the past few days they were standing
> in line waiting at store doors for the release of the latest
> Sony game platform. Other than making sure they had enough
> money for the purchase, I don't think they have any grasp
> of value. Betcha if you asked them how many had health
> insurance.....

A Play Station probably costs about the same as one month's health insurance.

One is within their means, the other isn't.

Graham


From: Eeyore on


unsettled wrote:

> Take care of the pennies and the dollars will take care
> of themseves.

No they don't.

It's a neat way of dodging the issue so it comes as no surprise you'd use it..

Graham

From: Eeyore on


unsettled wrote:

> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >
> >>>I don't have a com port.
> >>
> >>On a 486 ? You normally have 2. What does your modem connect to ?
> >>
> >>That would be astonishingly unusual ! Where does the mouse go ?
> >
> >
> > Serial ports.
>
> It seems to have begun with some terminals which labelled
> their RS232 ports with the logo "com".

COM is what they're called in DOS !

As in COM1, COM2, COM3, COM4.

The parallel ports are LPT1, LPT2, LPT3 also see PRN.

Graham


From: Eeyore on


unsettled wrote:

> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote
> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> >>>A single-payer in the US cannot have that; it is too big--3000 miles
> >>>wide 1700 miles long. You cannot administer distribution system
> >>>using a small business model while keeping the decisions central.
> >>
> >>Then how do the likes of FedEx and DHL function *worldwide* ?
> >
> >
> > They cannot deliver individual service. They do not repackage,
> > recolor, nor remake the package nor the contents. There is
> > no comparision to carrying a package from point A to point B
> > and fixing a single individual's ailment.
>
> I don't know what DHL does but FedEx uses a lot of contractors.
> Lost or delayed packages incurr some costs which they pay
> instead of trying to manage the entire system themselves
> from a central point.

The NHS employs contractors too.

Graham