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From: Eeyore on 21 Nov 2006 09:55 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>>Has your house been shifting ? > >> > >> Of course! All houses shift and creak and swell and shrink and > >> react to the seasons. > > > >Most of the European and Brit construction I've seen > >involves masonry. They have no appreciation for the > >wood frame construction that makes up the bulk of > >US housing, let alone advantages and disadvantages. > > But that doesn't explain it. They have to repoint masonry > in order to keep up maintenance. Their cracks are bigger > than mine ever will be. Repointing is quite rarely needed. Cracks are pretty rare here. Or maybe you'd like to contradict me about that too ? Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 21 Nov 2006 09:52 In article <7c99c$45630644$4fe7571$7869(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> In article <eju17q$9su$2(a)blue.rahul.net>, >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >> >>>In article <ejs81b$8qk_001(a)s952.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>>In article <ejr4o4$k7c$3(a)blue.rahul.net>, <snip> >>>>>You have moved >>>> >>>>>from the subject of paying for services provided to the providing of >>>> >>>>>services. In an insurance based system, ensuring that the services are >>>>>provided requires that the payment from the insurance company to the >>>>>doctor is large enough that market forces will attract providers in. >>>> >>>>What happens is all payments get padded. >>> >>>I think you missed my point. My point was about the method by which any >>>providers will be attracted into the market. The insurance company and >>>the provider are different companies. The provider will only do work for >>>the ensurer if the ensurer agrees to pay enough. >> >> >> Wake up. The provider has to "obey" the insurance companies or >> the provider will never get any business. > >Dealing with medical billing has become its own >separate discipline. The physician and dentist is >forced to hire a non-medical billing specialist >even for a one man office. In this state under Dukakis, they had to hire a political action person to get Medicare reimbursements. I suspect that this will have to happen again now that we're all Democrat. <snip> >>>>>That is a problem with the current situation. You are arguing against >>>>>changing the situation but have just provided a good reason why that >>>>>system should indeed be changed. >>>> >>>>It will only get worse if the administration of the biz becomes >>>>centralized in a national center. I am arguing that the >>>>administration needs to go the other way. >>> >>>But it seems that most of your arguments don't work. They point in the >>>direction of wanting a NHS. >> >> >> They do not point in the direction of an NHS. People who have the >> mindset that NHS is the only answer read into what I'm talking about. >> >> >> This is what is very, very odd in this thread. This underlying >> belief system is creeping to the point of insanity. That's >> why I keep thinking lemmings and wonder if it's biochemical. > >Fanatical religious. No. It has nothing to do with religious. >They buy into an entire system rather >than to analyze each individual component. This allows >insane components to take a ride with the rest, some of >which might actually make some sense at the end of the day. > >> I can also see how a civilization falls. As society gets more >> intertwined and complex, support services have to come from >> far away. To solve any distriubtion problems, locals don't >> want to spend the time and thinking about the solutions. So >> they hand the problem to their politicians. The politician >> infrastructure starts providing laws to solve problems which >> creates more distriubtion problems. This cycle evenutally >> becomes a deadly embrace. These local politicians hand >> the problem to the next level of govnernment. Pretty soon >> (a few centuries) all citizens expect the "government" to >> do all things. Corruption invariably occurs because >> all checks and balances have been removed by handing >> the responsibility and monies to the highest levels >> of decision making. > >> Eventually another society becomes strong enough to invade and >> take over with their style of ruling. Not because their style >> is better but because it is different and bootstraps the >> responsibilities back to locals. > >Not unreasonable in broad general terms. I see part of >the difficulty in the training high level politicians >experience. The "arts & parties" schools in the ivy >league promote camaraderie among socio-economic peers >of the newest generation as more important than classwork. The only way to reinstate practical political training is bring back the back room boys. This method stopped working within 75 years...that would make it two generations of politicians. > >It becomes the neokinship ruling class. The problem is, >of course, that the thought process is limited to what >they all learned, with new ideas finding it difficult >to impossible to break through the rah-rah-rah school >barriers. It has to do with time management. Middle class has just enough money to pay for others to do their daily work for them. One can easily lose track of what is happening in the political sectors when the work done to maintain the infrastructure of society is invisible. From what I've observed, knowlede of this work can disappear within a single generation. /BAH > > >[1] "Today, if your child has a rare congenital heart defect and no >specialist in the plan is equipped to treat it, your [HMO] plan can >condemn your child to second rate care from the doctor who happens to be >on the plan's list.... > >"Today, if you have incurable cancer and your best hope of a cure is >participation in a clinical trial, your [HMO] plan can deny you access >to that trial.... > >"Today, your doctor can be financially coerced by your HMO into giving >you less than optimal care.... > >"Today, if you need an expensive drug that is not on your plan's list, >the [HMO] plan can make you pay for it yourself or go without.... > >"The list goes on and on....
From: jmfbahciv on 21 Nov 2006 09:54 In article <456312F0.E306E4A7(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I have >> >> >> >> >> replacement windows. This means that a frame and window was >> >> >> >> >> built inside the house's window frame. The last wind storm >> >> >> >> >> had two of them providing very fresh air into the house. So >> >> >> >> >> I expended five caulk containers on the outside and took >> >> >> >> >> the windows apart to the point that the gaps between the >> >> >> >> >> two frames were exposed. I then stuffed more of that sponge >> >> >> >> >> stuff around the inner frame. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The traffic is not as loud as it was. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >They were incompetently fitted in that case. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Perhaps. It is also possible that the original sponge stuff >> >> >> >> shifted. It was certainly true that the inside caulking deteriorated >> >> >> >> a bit. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >That still involves rubbish materials. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sigh! No, it does not. The sponge stuff didn't deteriorate. >> >> >> Houses shift. When shifting happens, caulk may not stay stuck >> >> >> to all surfaces. >> >> > >> >> >Has your house been shifting ? >> >> >> >> Of course! All houses shift and creak and swell and shrink and >> >> react to the seasons. >> > >> >You don't have decent foundations ? >> >> What does that have to do with the minor configuration changes done >> by temperature changes and gravity? > >In Britain it would be poor foundations that give rise to movement of a house as >the ground swells and contracts with water content. Your windows never creak from the sun heating them and then cooling when the sun goes out? > > >> >What style of construction is this btw ? >> >> Wood frame built on fieldstone. > >That explains it. There are very few wood houses here. But you have to mortar your masonry, don't you? Isn't that the same kind of shifting that I'm seeing? /BAH
From: unsettled on 21 Nov 2006 10:03 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <681b1$45630847$4fe7571$7927(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>>In article <4563008C.E33FF82D(a)hotmail.com>, >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I have >>>>>>>>>replacement windows. This means that a frame and window was >>>>>>>>>built inside the house's window frame. The last wind storm >>>>>>>>>had two of them providing very fresh air into the house. So >>>>>>>>>I expended five caulk containers on the outside and took >>>>>>>>>the windows apart to the point that the gaps between the >>>>>>>>>two frames were exposed. I then stuffed more of that sponge >>>>>>>>>stuff around the inner frame. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The traffic is not as loud as it was. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>They were incompetently fitted in that case. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Perhaps. It is also possible that the original sponge stuff >>>>>>>shifted. It was certainly true that the inside caulking deteriorated >>>>>>>a bit. >>>>>> >>>>>>That still involves rubbish materials. >>>>> >>>>>Sigh! No, it does not. The sponge stuff didn't deteriorate. >>>>>Houses shift. When shifting happens, caulk may not stay stuck >>>>>to all surfaces. >>>> >>>>Has your house been shifting ? >>>> >>> >>> >>>Of course! All houses shift and creak and swell and shrink and >>>react to the seasons. >> >>Most of the European and Brit construction I've seen >>involves masonry. They have no appreciation for the >>wood frame construction that makes up the bulk of >>US housing, let alone advantages and disadvantages. > > > But that doesn't explain it. They have to repoint masonry > in order to keep up maintenance. Their cracks are bigger > than mine ever will be. They don't have nearly the extent and depth of freezing in the UK that we experience.
From: Ken Smith on 21 Nov 2006 10:03
In article <7c99c$45630644$4fe7571$7869(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: [....] >Dealing with medical billing has become its own >separate discipline. The physician and dentist is >forced to hire a non-medical billing specialist >even for a one man office. Yes, this is another inefficience of the current system. At least they should standardize the forms and make much of it electronic. There is very little reason for the billing information to travel on paper any more. [....] >> I did not think that they had the classification of insurance. I though >> the whole point of creating this kind of business was to avoid >> the constraints of insurance laws. > >Kennedy - March 3, 1978: > > "As the author of the first HMO bill ever to pass the Senate, I find >this spreading support for HMOs truly gratifying. Just a few years ago, >proponents of health maintenance organizations faced bitter opposition >from organized medicine. And just a few years ago, congressional >advocates of HMOs faced an administration which was long on HMO >rhetoric, but very short on action." > >Kennedy - May 15, 2001 > > "It is time to end the abuses of managed care that victimize thousands >of patients each day. It is time for doctors and nurses and patients to >make medical decisions again, not insurance company accountants. The >American people deserve prompt action, and we intend to see that they >get it." > >http://www.forhealthfreedom.org/Publications/Choice/ThenAndNow.html > >Partial list of abuses listed at the end.[1] BAH doesn't so WWW stuff so I've left your quote at the end in place. The fact that the US's system of payment for healthcare doesn't work very well is well documented. Tinkering around the edges won't fix it. [...] >> This is what is very, very odd in this thread. This underlying >> belief system is creeping to the point of insanity. That's >> why I keep thinking lemmings and wonder if it's biochemical. > >Fanatical religious. They buy into an entire system rather >than to analyze each individual component. This allows >insane components to take a ride with the rest, some of >which might actually make some sense at the end of the day. What the folks on your side are seeing is the same as what the folks on the other side also see. Your side says "socialism is bad" and then "NHS is socialism" and then won't look at how it operates to see why it manages to do better than the US's system. You reject the whole adn accuse those others of accepting the whole. >Not unreasonable in broad general terms. I see part of >the difficulty in the training high level politicians >experience. The "arts & parties" schools in the ivy >league promote camaraderie among socio-economic peers >of the newest generation as more important than classwork. > >It becomes the neokinship ruling class. The problem is, >of course, that the thought process is limited to what >they all learned, with new ideas finding it difficult >to impossible to break through the rah-rah-rah school >barriers. > > >[1] "Today, if your child has a rare congenital heart defect and no >specialist in the plan is equipped to treat it, your [HMO] plan can >condemn your child to second rate care from the doctor who happens to be >on the plan's list.... > >"Today, if you have incurable cancer and your best hope of a cure is >participation in a clinical trial, your [HMO] plan can deny you access >to that trial.... > >"Today, your doctor can be financially coerced by your HMO into giving >you less than optimal care.... > >"Today, if you need an expensive drug that is not on your plan's list, >the [HMO] plan can make you pay for it yourself or go without.... > >"The list goes on and on.... -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge |