From: unsettled on
Lloyd Parker wrote:

> In article <ek1equ$8ss_003(a)s853.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:


>>>Water after a natural disaster. Monopolies. There are many examples where
>>>unbridled capitalism is just plain wrong.

>>Have you considered that people should plan ahead?

> Have you considered compassion? Caring (about more than money, that is)?

Where necessary and it isn't part of a permanent scheme, sure.

> AT&T once had a monopoly on phone service. Tell me how someone could damn
> "plan ahead"!

AT&T's former monopoly was licensed and regulated. They
eventally voluntarily gave it up in order to be permitted
to invest their profits in something unrelated to
their primary business.

And just in case you haven't been paying attention, the
phoenix is arising out of its ashes.

"In 2005, SBC Communications purchased AT&T, thus reuniting the
venerable phone company with three of its spinoffs (SBC was comprised of
Southwestern Bell, Pacific Telesis, and Ameritech). The merger was
completed on November 18, 2005. The merged company is named AT&T Inc.
Additionally, on March 5, 2006, AT&T announced that it will merge with
BellSouth pending government regulatory approval. The surviving company
will be named AT&T, and will be headquartered in San Antonio with
Atlanta retaining the headquarters for Cingular Wireless, which will
return to the AT&T Wireless name, as well as Southeast region telephone
operations. If the merger is approved, it is assumed AT&T will not
switch back to the Bell logo, thus ending usage of the Bell logo for
corporate use by any of the Baby Bells. AT&T, from its days as SBC,
already controlled 60 percent of Cingular Wireless, which had itself
recently bought AT&T Wireless from the "old" AT&T. The other 40 percent
is controlled by BellSouth, meaning the merger would unite the company
under one corporate parent."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_System_divestiture




From: unsettled on
Lloyd Parker wrote:

> In article <ek1fi2$8qk_002(a)s853.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

>>This is
>>the road to dictatorship and communism.

> A commie under every bed. Wondered when the far right mantra would emerge.

Funny thing, we have an almost meaningless piece of a curve
describing the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere which is
dubbed a second order polynomial predictive of ecological
disaster, but that's PC and acceptable. A warning that
nationalizing private industry is a step on the path to
dictatorship and communism isn't PC so it is subject to
ridicule.

Lemmings.

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> If a government run single-payer denies claims, there is
> no other place to go

You go to a 'private' physician.


> because the providers of the service
> will not "disobey" the government mandates. This is
> the road to dictatorship and communism.

You think that's what we have in the UK ?

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >
> >>>>What percentage do you think the government has to take?
> >>>
> >>>Medicare runs with about a 3% overhead rate.
> >>
> >>I don't believe this. That may be the Federal percentage. The
> >>state percentage also has to be included.
> >
> >There is no state % for Medicare. You're thinking of Medicaid.
>
> No, I'm not. Who sends the money? Not the feds. The feds
> send the money to the state who then disburses it. That is
> two political levels of bureaucracy.

An 'NHS' doesn't have these problems.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> I hope he finds something that he would pay his
> employer so he can do the work.

You think ppl should pay for the 'privilege' of working now ?

Graham