From: lucasea on 21 Nov 2006 20:56 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:f7ee$45627777$4fe765f$4595(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > JoeBloe wrote: >> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:43:06 -0000, "T Wake" >> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> Gave us: >> >> >>>"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message >>>news:movsl2d4vgeql5obo47viq39ok1j56ig1e(a)4ax.com... >>> >>>>On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:20:50 +0000, Eeyore >>>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >>>> >>>> >>>>>How about you just take a look at when and why this terrorism started ? >>>> >>>> >>>> You are obviously truly clueless as to the reference point for >>>>either. >>> >>>Translating that from idiot into English and it should have read "I have >>>nothing to defend my argument, so I will just insult and pretend I know >>>what I am talking about." >>> >>>Well done Joe. >> >> You're an abject idiot. > > Actually he's an evasive abject idiot. Oh, great, now the sycophant has a sycophant. Eric Lucas
From: Eeyore on 21 Nov 2006 23:15 "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > krw wrote: > > > > > Why? McDonalds pays real money. They offer real benefits. Why > > wouldn't kids learn how to handle money by being employed? It's > > certainly better than learning to live off the government! > > A kid I know has just finished a year working at a Wendy's > restaurant. He has bought a used pickup truck, and a used motorcycle. He > helps support his disabled mother, and he only graduated from high > school, earlier this year. He has matured a lot in the past year, > something that the demented donkey really should try. LOL ! I'm a graduate of the University of Life. Big time. > The first couple months he was wasting his money, but that changed > fairly fast. His talk of a fancy stereo system, and other useless toys > is gone, and he is trying to save some money for his future. How do you think I ever bought a house ? Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 22 Nov 2006 07:12 In article <ejv29u$vbq$2(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <1164101047.711452.220630(a)f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, > |||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk wrote: >> >>unsettled wrote: >> >>> Ken Smith wrote: >>> > In article <MPG.1fcae9c9199518f8989c01(a)news.individual.net>, >>> > krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >>> > >>> >>In article <ejqve0$fgo$2(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net >>> >>says... >>> >> >>> >>>In article <6af58$455ba5ff$4fe75f7$20998(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>> >>>unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>> >>>[.....] >>> >>> >>> >>>>The original error starts with you two clowns failing to >>> >>>>appreciate that capitalism has a soul. >>> >>> >>> >>>(Boggle) Capitalism is a cold hard logical system. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>To define a term >>> >>>>"fair profit" isn't beyond the capacity of capitalism to >>> >>>>embrace freely and without external (read governmental) >>> >>>>imposition. >>> >>> >>> >>>It is beyond the capacity of capitalism to define what "fair profit" >>> >>>really means. >>> >> >>> >>Nonsense! Capitalism perfectly defines what is fair; did someone >>> >>pay the fair market value? If so, it is by *definition* fair. If >>> >>not it is not "fair". >> >>There is no "fair" market price. There is only the price that one >>particular individual is willing to pay for the specific goods or >>services. If you want some fun try comparing how much you have paid for >>an airline seat on a scheduled flight with your neighbours. And don't >>get too upset if you find that one of them has paid half what you did >>for the same journey and ticket. >> >>Willing seller willing buyer. If you don't like the price you are not >>compelled to buy it. > >Water after a natural disaster. Monopolies. There are many examples where >unbridled capitalism is just plain wrong. Have you considered that people should plan ahead? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 22 Nov 2006 07:32 In article <ejv2k6$vbq$5(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <ejuug2$8qk_001(a)s861.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>>>What percentage do you think the government has to take? >>> >>>Medicare runs with about a 3% overhead rate. >> >>I don't believe this. That may be the Federal percentage. The >>state percentage also has to be included. > >There is no state % for Medicare. You're thinking of Medicaid. No, I'm not. Who sends the money? Not the feds. The feds send the money to the state who then disburses it. That is two political levels of bureaucracy. > It is a fact >that Medicare has a lower % of administrative costs than private insurers. I'm sure you believe all those so-called facts. Just collecting the premiums is costly. > >> >>> This is much less than an >>>insurance company. I am sure that part of the reason that both Canada and >>>the UK pay less for "health care" is because their governments require a >>>smaller overhead than the 20% of the US insurance companies. The 20% >>>alone isn't enough to explain it because they actually pay about 60% not >>>80% of what the US pays. >> >>They pay "less" because 1. less is provided 2. it a monopoly and >>can coerce medical suppliers to discount their prices. >> >>Let us take the latter. Those companies have to recoup their >>costs or they go out of business. At the moment, the US is >>paying. What will the rest of you in this world do if the >>US stops paying the costs of development by also limiting >>prices? >> >> > >Why would these companies sell their products in a country if they were not >making a profit? Market presence. You get one product on the market and that makes it easier for the next product and the next. >>> In the insurance case it is keeping >>>the shareholders happy that is the goal. The NHS is a very bad system but >>>nearly as bad as all the other options. >> >>NHS is a social system. It will eventually deteriorate as all social >>systems do. >>> > >Society is a social system. Civilization is a social system. Yes. To thrive requires innovation and trade. If the trade stagnates, it takes less than 50 years to cease to exist. Think about it. Trade routes become unsafe so trade rapidly becomes a local activity. New ideas never move out of the neighborhood. This new knowledge can disappear with one flu bug. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 22 Nov 2006 07:40
In article <dda7f$4563154a$4fe70e2$8284(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> In article <681b1$45630847$4fe7571$7927(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: <snip - cleanup> >>>>Of course! All houses shift and creak and swell and shrink and >>>>react to the seasons. >>> >>>Most of the European and Brit construction I've seen >>>involves masonry. They have no appreciation for the >>>wood frame construction that makes up the bulk of >>>US housing, let alone advantages and disadvantages. >> >> >> But that doesn't explain it. They have to repoint masonry >> in order to keep up maintenance. Their cracks are bigger >> than mine ever will be. > > >They don't have nearly the extent and depth of freezing >in the UK that we experience. Point! I forgot about the freezing bit. I thought it got cold in the UK. Ireland was very cold and damp. /BAH |