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From: jmfbahciv on 21 Nov 2006 07:46 In article <45623B15.8C623F1D(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >> > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >> > >> >> That >> >>forces all decisions to made by bureaucrats and non-medical personnel. >> > >> >No, it does nothing of the kind. The only thing that an insurance company >> >or even the NHS can decide is what to pay for. If I want to pay for >> >something out of my own pocket, my insurance company won't stop me. In >> >England, the NHS doesn't stop people from paying outside the system. The >> >big difference between the insurance and the NHS in this respect is that >> >the insurance company has to take about 20% off the top to pay for its >> >running costs. >> >> What percentage do you think the government has to take? It is a much >> larger organization and it has to soothe political feathers. The >> politics is the number one goal. > >There are no political feathers to be 'soothed'. Oh, botheration. Are you really certain you want me to believe that you are this blind to how politics works? Even I know what you wrote is 100% wrong. >The NHS has broad support across >all the political parties in the UK. > >Why do you think this so ? Your economy is hampered by socialism. When things get really tough, who is going to get less service first? /BAH
From: Eeyore on 21 Nov 2006 07:56 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >krw wrote: > > >> I know the Europeons have no concept of self-reliance, but some of > >> us escapees of your stupid crown still do! > > > >You haven't even the tiniest clue what you're talking about. > > He does. This is a difference in the mindset of Americans and > Europeans. That much is for sure. He's wrong about the nature of it though. > I've been playing with the idea that Europeans > have a reliance on authority because their background is > kinships. What ??????? Graham
From: Eeyore on 21 Nov 2006 07:57 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> I have > >> replacement windows. This means that a frame and window was > >> built inside the house's window frame. The last wind storm > >> had two of them providing very fresh air into the house. So > >> I expended five caulk containers on the outside and took > >> the windows apart to the point that the gaps between the > >> two frames were exposed. I then stuffed more of that sponge > >> stuff around the inner frame. > >> > >> The traffic is not as loud as it was. > > > >They were incompetently fitted in that case. > > Perhaps. It is also possible that the original sponge stuff > shifted. It was certainly true that the inside caulking deteriorated > a bit. That still involves rubbish materials. Graham
From: Ben Newsam on 21 Nov 2006 07:35 On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:08:13 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > I heard of one long flame war that passed 10K posts, but I never >found out which newsgroup. Bollocks! <vbg>
From: Eeyore on 21 Nov 2006 08:09
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > >>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: > > >>>> So everybody has a piece > >>>>of paper that says "insurance". That will not create any > >>>>infrastructure needed to deliver the services. > >>> > >>>Agreed but if you wish to hang onto an insurance based system rather than > >>>a NHS like system, this is a completely seperate problem. > >> > >>I don't want either. Insurance should be only for extraordinary > >>circumstances. Instead what we have is a "insurance" that is > >>expected to pay for everything. As a result, it does pay for > >>everything and becomes a Ponzi scheme. > >> > > > >My employer offers both -- an insurance plan with low premiums and very high > >deductibles and copays (and so for extraordinary circumstances) and one with > >higher premiums and lower deductibles anc copays (and thus pays for more > >routine things). Choice is good. > > Choice is very good. An NHS will eliminate choice. Watch the > politics and administrations of Massachusetts' latest brain > fart. We'll see what methods the politico social workers use > to force all of us to have insurance. An NHS doesn't elimiate choice. Choice of what anyway ? Ppl who want to be treated privately outside the NHS can choose to do so whenever they feel the need and various types of health insurance policies are also available for those who want the pampering or convenience of 'going private'. There's far *more* choice than you guys get ! Graham |