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From: T Wake on 22 Nov 2006 14:51 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ejurv7$8ss_004(a)s861.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <45627A74.E0CC0567(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>krw wrote: >> >>> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >>> > krw wrote: >>> > > lparker(a)emory.edu says... >>> > > > krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > >WallMart offers medical insurance. >>> > > > >>> > > > With premiums and deductibles such that people with a wife and >>> > > > kids > cannot >>> > > > afford it. >>> > > >>> > > They aren't all that bad, considering the costs of health care. >>> > > There are priorities in life. Some have theirs screwed up. >>> > >>> > An NHS means that no-one gets it screwed up. >>> >>> s/no-one/everyone/ >>> >>> I know the Europeons have no concept of self-reliance, but some of >>> us escapees of your stupid crown still do! >> >>You haven't even the tiniest clue what you're talking about. > > He does. This is a difference in the mindset of Americans and > Europeans. I've been playing with the idea that Europeans > have a reliance on authority because their background is > kinships. I have been playing with the idea that Americans are subject to massive misconceptions about the outside world due to long term inbreeding and subjugation to media re-interpretations of the past, to the extent that they can no longer make reasoned assumptions about the outside world and have developed a logically inconsistent idea about their cultural past. Does that make it true? krw was talking nonsense and arguing from a position of no background knowledge. I find it very, very amusing that you tried to build on this, and then concluded Europeans have a reliance on authority. Obviously the irony is lost on you.
From: T Wake on 22 Nov 2006 14:52 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ejv058$8qk_002(a)s861.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <4562F76D.870083F2(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >krw wrote: >>> >>> >> I know the Europeons have no concept of self-reliance, but some of >>> >> us escapees of your stupid crown still do! >>> > >>> >You haven't even the tiniest clue what you're talking about. >>> >>> He does. This is a difference in the mindset of Americans and >>> Europeans. >> >>That much is for sure. He's wrong about the nature of it though. > > What I am trying to say is that you will never be able to > see our POV and visa versa. This is due to the differences > between our embedded cultures. The assumptions are different > and have been burnt in so deeply that none of us are aware > these assumptions exist. > > I suspect not many people will understand this last one but > I can't write it any clearer. > >> >> >>> I've been playing with the idea that Europeans >>> have a reliance on authority because their background is >>> kinships. >> >>What ??????? > > Yes. What is embedded in your culture is leaving the ruling > flavors of decisions to an entity. Incorrect. > This used to be an > anathema in the US. But our self-reliance attitude is slowly > leaking away with each new Democrat who follows the current > leadership. This is _your_ take on it. You have little contact with reality in your own country so I do not rate your opinion as representative.
From: T Wake on 22 Nov 2006 15:01 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:456471FC.662B88EB(a)hotmail.com... > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >> > |||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk wrote: >> >>unsettled wrote: >> >>> Ken Smith wrote: >> >>> > krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >>Nonsense! Capitalism perfectly defines what is fair; did someone >> >>> >>pay the fair market value? If so, it is by *definition* fair. If >> >>> >>not it is not "fair". >> >> >> >>There is no "fair" market price. There is only the price that one >> >>particular individual is willing to pay for the specific goods or >> >>services. If you want some fun try comparing how much you have paid for >> >>an airline seat on a scheduled flight with your neighbours. And don't >> >>get too upset if you find that one of them has paid half what you did >> >>for the same journey and ticket. >> >> >> >>Willing seller willing buyer. If you don't like the price you are not >> >>compelled to buy it. >> > >> >Water after a natural disaster. Monopolies. There are many examples >> >where >> >unbridled capitalism is just plain wrong. >> >> Have you considered that people should plan ahead? > > Have you considered that we don't live in an ideal world ? Not to mention that not all planning is perfect. Accidents happen, what if your water stocks were destroyed in the natural disaster that removed the supply? How do you plan for every single eventuality. This notwithstanding, the original direction this offshoot of the thread was taking was about ensuring a fair market price and "punishing" companies which made more than a fair profit. It seems apparent that there is no capitalistic system which can ensure a company only takes a fair profit, other than the normal supply and demand. This in turn falsifies an earlier post by either unsettled or /BAH about companies which took more than a fair profit going out of business.
From: T Wake on 22 Nov 2006 15:08 "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:45638C91.511F38F8(a)earthlink.net... > krw wrote: > >> >> Why? McDonalds pays real money. They offer real benefits. Why >> wouldn't kids learn how to handle money by being employed? It's >> certainly better than learning to live off the government! > > > A kid I know has just finished a year working at a Wendy's > restaurant. He has bought a used pickup truck, and a used motorcycle. He > helps support his disabled mother, and he only graduated from high > school, earlier this year. He has matured a lot in the past year, > something that the demented donkey really should try. > > The first couple months he was wasting his money, but that changed > fairly fast. His talk of a fancy stereo system, and other useless toys > is gone, and he is trying to save some money for his future. > A kid I know has worked at McDonalds for two years and is still a selfish, self centred idiot with no concept of the value of money, nor the social responsibilities that go with being an adult. He wouldn't know how to save for a pair of socks, let alone the future. He is a blight on society despite being 20 years old and having worked since he left school. Just shows anecdotal evidence can cut both ways.
From: T Wake on 22 Nov 2006 15:12
"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message news:cgd4m2pnb2md9d2nue5p1v59o2lnqvdmqj(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:42:05 -0000, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> Gave us: > >> >>"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message >>news:o80tl2d7bpo9919u2296bvnom2h3mqgrq1(a)4ax.com... >>> On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:15:05 -0000, "T Wake" >>> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> Gave us: >>> >>>> >>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>news:ejk9op$8qk_001(a)s922.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>>> In article <1163689355.822964.185390(a)k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >>>>> |||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>So who are you then? >>>>> >>>>> My moniker is in some listings. JMF's is in all the listings. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Stop alluding then. Tell us. Listings of what? This is USENET, as it >>>>stands, >>>>based on your recent posts you are currently as believable as tj Frazir. >>>> >>> As if a twit like you, resting only one notch above TJ Frazir, could >>> judge anyone else. >> >>At least I, unlike you, am that one notch above Frazir. Even he laughs at >>your posts. >> > > > You're an idiot. > > He can't even spell the words laugh, your, or post, much less know > what they mean. Yet he still has you beaten hands down. Pretty sad really. I feel sorry for you. |