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From: jmfbahciv on 23 Nov 2006 08:38 In article <4564A310.5A23FA27(a)earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> In article <45638C91.511F38F8(a)earthlink.net>, >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >krw wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Why? McDonalds pays real money. They offer real benefits. Why >> >> wouldn't kids learn how to handle money by being employed? It's >> >> certainly better than learning to live off the government! >> > >> > >> > A kid I know has just finished a year working at a Wendy's >> >restaurant. He has bought a used pickup truck, and a used motorcycle. He >> >helps support his disabled mother, and he only graduated from high >> >school, earlier this year. He has matured a lot in the past year, >> >something that the demented donkey really should try. >> > >> > The first couple months he was wasting his money, >> >> Everybody goes through this stage, I think. >> >> > but that changed >> >fairly fast. His talk of a fancy stereo system, and other useless toys >> >is gone, and he is trying to save some money for his future. >> >> Good for him. I hope he finds something that he would pay his >> employer so he can do the work. >> >> /BAH > > > He is trying to get a construction job with a small contractor as >their go-fer. The pay is about the same, but he will work the same >hours every day, instead of closing the restaurant one night, and >opening it the next morning. Regular hours is one of the tradeoffs. > I am teaching him to repair and upgrade >computers, so that he will have a second set of skills to look for work >with, when he gets tired of the construction work. My nephew is doing that kind of work at a retail store while he's in college. He comes home (to the dorm) from work and sees everyone else sitting around watching TV. He is flabberghasted about how these people can waste so much of their time. /BAH
From: hill on 23 Nov 2006 09:39 Eeyore wrote: > Winfield Hill wrote: >> Google Groups is having a little trouble with this long thread. >> The message-heading list said there were 9999 posts, so >> I hoped to make the 10,000th post, but upon loading all the >> article references in the left sidebar, it showed more than >> 10,050 posts, so I missed the opportunity. > > Yes, we've found a flaw with google groups. > > The summary page seems incapable of displaying any number > 10,000 ! > The honour of the 10,000th post goes to T Wake btw. Well, Graham, actually it has you as # 10,000 right now. But the number is volatile and it'll change as soon as someone posts higher up in the list, pushing the rest down.
From: jmfbahciv on 23 Nov 2006 09:36 In article <ek365l$2pn$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >In article <6dd17$45646b74$4fe74f0$17139(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>Ken Smith wrote: >> >>> In article <ek1kpf$8qk_002(a)s853.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >>[.....] >> >>>> It is also >>>>accepted by the populace because your basic tenets are based on >>>>a socialism. The US is not. >> >>> BTW: I am not from the UK not am I there right now so I really can't >>> speak to what the tenets are for them. >> >>> I believe that Canada and the UK accept the NHS system because they know >>> it works. >> >>If we hadn't gotten past FDR as we have, we'd have some >>sort of an NHS as well. What's forgotten is that in most >>instances the US is the leader, not the follower. > >Yes, it is strange the areas in which the US finds its self behind. The >US basically invented the auto industry and now finds its self lagging. >This may be a natural ebb and flow. The US may decide to invent something >new on the funding of healtcare and retake the lead in that area. > > >[...] >>Society, governments, and politics, are all long term >>experiments. How long did it take for the FSU with its >>"wonderful new" system of politics to fail? NHS has not >>yet withstood the test of time. Wake me up in a few more >>decades. > >Neither has a US economy running with fiat money been tested for long >enough. I expect that, that is a much greater rick of failure than the >NHS of the UK. > > >>excerpt follows: >> >>"Many socialists have the tragic illusion that by depriving private >>individuals of the power they possess in an individualist system, and >>transferring this power to society, they thereby extinguish power. > >Those arguing for the NHS need not be socialists, but to take the >socialists side just for a moment: The above statement is not what many >socialists assume. Many socialists would claim that the choice is between >having a few wealthy persons determine how power is used or having elected >representives do so. They do not believe that the power is extinguished >at all but rather that it is safer to place it in the hands of the elected >than the merely lucky. > > >> What >>they overlook is that, by concentrating power so that it can be used in >>the service of a single plan, it is not merely transformed but >>infinitely heightened. By uniting in the hands of some single body power >>formerly exercised independently by many, an amount of power is created >>infinitely > >Don't you just love infinity? It so impressive! The autor seems to have >confused socialism with communism. Many socialists are in favor of local >control. Local economic control. When the politicians begin to control the economics, the system becomes communism. I'm told that a successful socialist economy is in Sweden. I have to study that. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 23 Nov 2006 09:38 In article <45659B11.3C9D37D1(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >hill(a)rowland.org wrote: > >> Winfield Hill wrote: >> > Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> >> Winfield Hill wrote: >> >>> Winfield Hill wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> 4200 postings and still going strong. Amazing. >> >>> >> >>> Wow, now 7200 posts and still going strong. And most >> >>> of the posts were under the original subject title. This >> >>> must be some kind of a record. Certainly it's a stress >> >>> test for the Google Groups web-page display code, etc. >> >> >> >> Never have so many, said so much, about so little! ;-) >> >> >> >> I heard of one long flame war that passed 10K posts, >> >> but I never found out which newsgroup. >> > >> > We passed 9000 on the 14th, and are now within 100 posts >> > of 10,000. Keep up the good work guys, you can do it! >> >> Google Groups is having a little trouble with this long thread. >> The message-heading list said there were 9999 posts, so >> I hoped to make the 10,000th post, but upon loading all the >> article references in the left sidebar, it showed more than >> 10,050 posts, so I missed the opportunity. >> >> But, good job guys and gals, over 10,000 posts, and still >> going strong. And still on topic more or less. I've only >> read a smattering of the posts here and there, and there's >> a minimum of flaming SFAICS. Nice to see. > >Yes, we've found a flaw with google groups. > >The summary page seems incapable of displaying any number > 10,000 ! The honour >of the 10,000th post goes to T Wake btw. What number does it show? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 23 Nov 2006 09:39
In article <1164285593.429489.35070(a)e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, hill(a)rowland.org wrote: >Winfield Hill wrote: >> >> Google Groups is having a little trouble with this long thread. >> The message-heading list said there were 9999 posts, so >> I hoped to make the 10,000th post, but upon loading all the >> article references in the left sidebar, it showed more than >> 10,050 posts, so I missed the opportunity. > > Aha, I see the problem! Google has a bug: for threads of more > than 10,000 posts, it sticks at 9999 on its message-heading > summary list. A new usenet A10k problem (10k articles). > Did you sent them a bug report? /BAH |