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From: unsettled on 23 Nov 2006 16:29 T Wake wrote: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:ek4e49$8qk_007(a)s1002.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > I am amazed you think a backward, socialist, royalist country like the UK is > capable of doing something as important for it's people as a nationwide > health service, available to all, when the mighty US is not. As I've posted before, my experience with US healthcare and insurance is different from BAH's. I'm at personally 99% satisfaction. That's not to say a large number of her points aren't valid. In particular, likening health insurance to a Ponzi scheme has been misunderstood by most of those arguing with BAH. If general health insurance is affordable to most people, then so would the actual costs of healthcare were it not for the fact that insurance companies, by the very natgure of the beast, drive charges for medical services upwards as well as improve the availability of services that might, in the absence of insurance, never be made available. Health insurance is a mixed bag, as most things are. What we have here in the US isn't perfect, but then nothing is. Before someone pouts again about the poor not having full services available, we do have an unfunded socialist mandate from the federal government requiring every hospital Emergency Room to provide sufficient servces to all comers in imminent danger. Other vehicles such as medicaid are available to the indigent. That's a no frills service, but nobody who presents themselves to an ER is going to die in the US for lack of timely health care. Contrary to several unfounded opinions expressed here, we have a working system that's not nearing a collapse. The Marxist socialist protests voiced in this thread are a clear indication that the proponents who have so far voiced their opinions haven't a foggiest clue about economic theory.
From: unsettled on 23 Nov 2006 16:31 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:45651F6A.7DF501BD(a)hotmail.com... > >> >>unsettled wrote: >> >> >>>T Wake wrote: >>> >>> >>>>A kid I know has worked at McDonalds for two years and is still a >>>>selfish, >>>>self centred idiot with no concept of the value of money, nor the >>>>social >>>>responsibilities that go with being an adult. He wouldn't know how to >>>>save >>>>for a pair of socks, let alone the future. He is a blight on society >>>>despite >>>>being 20 years old and having worked since he left school. >>>> >>>>Just shows anecdotal evidence can cut both ways. >>> >>>What is shows is that T.Wake believes most people >>>need keepers, hence Marxist socialism. >> >>Good Lord ! >> >>Talk about leaping to conclusions ! > > > Yeah, I don't think he needs a keeper. I think he should be deported and > some other country should worry about him. > > Unsettled is not capable of the reading comprehension of a six year old, so > it is no surprise he repeated jumps to incorrect conclusions. He cant help > himself, he really is not capable of anything else. Burp.
From: unsettled on 23 Nov 2006 16:32 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:45658EA3.4AE5B3B9(a)hotmail.com... > >> >>'foolsrushin' wrote: >> >> >>>Homer J Simpson wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message >>>>news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i(a)4ax.com... >>> >>>>>>So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else? >>> >>>>>No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before >>>>>President Bush and the present Republican administration was >>>>>involved in any way. >>> >>>>But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires >>>>international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or >>>>unwilling to be involved in. >>> >>>Bush and 'Boy Blair' poked a nest of hornets, and now we all have to >>>live with the consequences. Probably the intention was to stir up the >>>guys to get at their oil, but the miscalculation was that this was a >>>political issue: probably, whoever thermited the Towers, there was no >>>recognition that there would be nobody to negotiate with and >>>conversely, universal Islamic protest, with a highly significant number >>>of them flying into a scattered self-sacrificial rage. The next and >>>silly step was to declare war on 'terrorism', effectively inventing >> >>Oh no ! >> >>Not a conspiracy theorist who believes the towers were thermited ? > > > news://sci.physics is full of the nutters. Thus spake a_Wakenutter with long standing.
From: unsettled on 23 Nov 2006 16:53 Jonathan Kirwan wrote: > On Thu, 23 Nov 06 15:09:03 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>I have yet to hear anybody help about this step to a dicatorship; >>it is very worrisome. > You must be an idealist Libertarian or something. As I've mentioned > here earlier, I grew up working the fields as a child to make the > money I needed to eat, lived in a home without walls, begged for food > at grocery stores, and I did NOT have medical care. There is NO > possible excuse for a society such as ours with children growing up as > I did, after my father died. It's inexcusable. Period. > It has nothing to do with dictatorship. It has everything to do with > being compassionate. Something, perhaps, you lack? The fact is we've made a point of looking after orphans since the earliest days of the US, so I really don't understand the basis for your history.
From: Ken Smith on 23 Nov 2006 16:59
In article <ek47b4$8qk_002(a)s1002.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: [....] >Wait until our generation starts to require medical services. >The delivery system is broken. You must be in better shape than me. I need medical services from time to time. The time I foolishly caught a saw I dropped would be a great example. I had no trouble getting it fixed up. I had good insurance at the time and didn't live in some backwater so good care was only a few miles away. >>The US doesn't do well with infant mortality. I haven't >>delved into why that is. > >It's possible that medical technology is too good. I doubt it. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge |