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From: Eeyore on 23 Nov 2006 15:22 Jamie wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: > > > >>Our post offices are also open till 5PM in most places. > > > > > > Is that supposed to be some kind of special US achievement ? Ours stay open later > > than that ! > > > > Graham > > Is there anything over there that is below standard or > at least, your standard? I can think of a number of things in fact. Unsettled's idea of proving the alleged superiority of the USA by making claims about the rather indifferent closing times of post offices was somewhat surreal however. > You live in such a dream world, maybe you should > step out side and smell the air, cause I think it stinks > at times like it does anywhere else in the world. It certainly stinks in Bombay. And I most assuredly do not live in any dream world either. Graham
From: Eeyore on 23 Nov 2006 15:26 Jamie wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>> > >>>>Have you considered that people should plan ahead? > >>> > >>>Have you considered that we don't live in an ideal world ? > >> > >>I know it isn't ideal. Because of this fact, no national > >>social program will deliver satisfactory service efficiently. > >>It will deliver the minimum and that's all. > > > > You just keep saying this with no factual basis. > > > > The truth is that the NHS ( a national social prgramme ) does deliver a good > > service very effectively. I'd call it better than a minimum too but it is for > > sure essentially 'no frills'. > > > > In comparison the US system fails to deliver as much at a far greater cost. > > > > Graham > > > there you go again, your country has everything perfect! there is no > corruption, crime, hunger, lack of health services to all virtually > free, > etc.. and the list goes on! > Dream on buddy. we learned from the best! you guys. All the contributors who have had good words for the NHS have made it clear that it's not perfect by any means. Indeed I've heard it said that there never will be a perfect health service. It is very good at providing the vast majority of what ppl need though and does so regardless of an individuals' wealth. Graham
From: Eeyore on 23 Nov 2006 15:28 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > unsettled wrote: > >> > >> What is shows is that T.Wake believes most people > >> need keepers, hence Marxist socialism. > > > > Good Lord ! > > > > Talk about leaping to conclusions ! > > Yeah, I don't think he needs a keeper. I think he should be deported and > some other country should worry about him. > > Unsettled is not capable of the reading comprehension of a six year old, so > it is no surprise he repeated jumps to incorrect conclusions. He cant help > himself, he really is not capable of anything else. He seems to have some wacky ideas about Marxism too. Graham
From: Jonathan Kirwan on 23 Nov 2006 15:59 On Thu, 23 Nov 06 15:09:03 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >In article <3n49m217v6elta45n7or12e7o8g9q7764b(a)4ax.com>, > Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote: >>On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:05:52 -0000, "T Wake" >><usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:ejus5u$8ss_006(a)s861.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <ejsl9k$9gs$12(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>>In article <ejs81b$8qk_001(a)s952.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>In article <ejr4o4$k7c$3(a)blue.rahul.net>, >>>>>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>>>>>>In article <ejhpc1$8qk_001(a)s938.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>>>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>In article <ejckm3$mf9$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, >>>>>>>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>>>>>>>>In article <ejcg0c$8ss_016(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>>>>>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>[.....] >>>>>>>>>>I see the consequences just fine. Forcing, by law, everyone >>>>>>>>>>to have insurance is the latest idiocy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>If you are going to have an insurance based system and not let the >>>>>>>>>dead >>>>>>>>>bodies of those without insurance clutter the streets, you really need >>>>>>>>>to >>>>>>>>>make sure everyone has insurance. If you don't then an irresponsible >>>>>>>>>fraction of society can become a burden on the rest. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The same problems will still exist. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No, the irresponsible people will not longer be a burden. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So everybody has a piece >>>>>>>>of paper that says "insurance". That will not create any >>>>>>>>infrastructure needed to deliver the services. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Agreed but if you wish to hang onto an insurance based system rather >>>>>>>than >>>>>>>a NHS like system, this is a completely seperate problem. >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't want either. Insurance should be only for extraordinary >>>>>>circumstances. Instead what we have is a "insurance" that is >>>>>>expected to pay for everything. As a result, it does pay for >>>>>>everything and becomes a Ponzi scheme. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>My employer offers both -- an insurance plan with low premiums and very >>>>>high >>>>>deductibles and copays (and so for extraordinary circumstances) and one >>>>>with >>>>>higher premiums and lower deductibles anc copays (and thus pays for more >>>>>routine things). Choice is good. >>>> >>>> Choice is very good. An NHS will eliminate choice. >>> >>>How? >>> >>>> Watch the >>>> politics and administrations of Massachusetts' latest brain >>>> fart. We'll see what methods the politico social workers use >>>> to force all of us to have insurance. >>> >>>Interesting concepts. >> >>Don't forget to look at Oregon, which has a medicaid waiver and >>provides an Oregon Health Plan that is a means-tested medical and >>dental plan for anyone who can meet the criteria. I expect to see it >>expanded under the new Democratic leadership here. > >Have they the brass balls to invoke a penalty on your income tax >form if you don't "volunteer" and sign up for those programs? Hmm? I don't understand the question. >I have yet to hear anybody help about this step to a dicatorship; >it is very worrisome. You must be an idealist Libertarian or something. As I've mentioned here earlier, I grew up working the fields as a child to make the money I needed to eat, lived in a home without walls, begged for food at grocery stores, and I did NOT have medical care. There is NO possible excuse for a society such as ours with children growing up as I did, after my father died. It's inexcusable. Period. It has nothing to do with dictatorship. It has everything to do with being compassionate. Something, perhaps, you lack? Jon
From: unsettled on 23 Nov 2006 16:10
Jamie wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > >> >> unsettled wrote: >> >> >>> Our post offices are also open till 5PM in most places. >> >> >> >> Is that supposed to be some kind of special US achievement ? Ours stay >> open later >> than that ! >> >> Graham >> > Is there anything over there that is below standard or > at least, your standard? > > You live in such a dream world, maybe you should > step out side and smell the air, cause I think it stinks > at times like it does anywhere else in the world. I was in the UK in 2000. The post offices closed at noon. Residential delivery arrived at about 6:45 AM. There was officially a second daily residential delivery but I never saw it actually happen. |