From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Take a look at European nations that are blatant socialists.

Talk about starting from a false premise !

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Take a look at European nations that are blatant socialists.

False premise commented on.


> They have to import people to do the work.

Like Mexicans in the 'socialist' USA you mean ?

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Socialism does get communistic if the administration covers a
> >> >> large geographic and/or population density. There isn't any
> >> >> other way to "control" renegades who don't like to be told
> >> >> what to do all the time.
> >> >
> >> >What nonsense is this now ?
> >> >
> >> >Where *do* you get these ideas ?
> >>
> >> I think about what I read.
> >
> >You'r reading garbage in that case.
>
> Historians write garbage? De Touqueville wrote garbage? The
> framers of our Constitution wrote garbage? Thatcher wrote
> garbage? Churchhill wrote garbage? Generals wrote garbage?

Have you ever read anything modern ?

Thatcher was quite mad btw.

Graham

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <ek7da7$hv4$6(a)blue.rahul.net>,
kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>In article <ek71e9$8qk_001(a)s989.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>In article <ek5b01$t07$5(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>>In article <ek4cvi$8qk_001(a)s1002.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>In article <ek1mhj$cf8$1(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>>>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>>[....]
>>>>>>What makes you think that these problem will be fixed with an NHS?
>>>>>
>>>>>Both Canada and the UK do better with the systems they have. The
>>>>>experiment is done. The results have been tabulated.
>>>>
>>>>Their systems do not have to keep 50 "countries" happy with the
>>>>same implementation.
>>>
>>>In Canada, the provinces are really about as independant as the states in
>>>the US.
>>
>>Isn't Canada also under the UK?
>
>Certainly not. Begin ASCII art:
>
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>As you can see the US is under Canada.

ROTFLMAO. Not if I stand on my head.
>
>[....]
>>>Yes it reeks of practical politics in the US.
>>
>>No, it reeks of somebody who believes the Constitution should
>>be ignored.
>
>It can be changed if needed. In fact, most likely is should be to set
>legal bounds on things like the FCC.

I'd love to have that done. I'm getting tired of paying that
fee I call AlGoretax.

> The framers unwisely did not put any
>rules on radio communications. It was very short sighted of them.

No,no,no. They were short-sighted by not including TV licenses.
Not anticipating radio comm was due to tin ears.

>
>
>>> As soon as the insurance
>>>industry and the drug companies found out what was going on, they were
>>>"all over it like a bad smell". If you want to get unbiased opinions, you
>>>need to keep the study secret while you do it. If you don't the special
>>>interests will find a way to influence the results.
>>
>>Business Week reported she had financial interest in a company
>>that deal with drug futures of some exotic flavor. That was
>>the bad smell. It wasnt' the PACs that were up in arms. It
>>was Congress and a blantant attempt at changing how the goverenment's
>>business was done.
>
>Would you have believed Business Week if they had reported something else?

I thought they were making things up. Then that other mess
started up in the courts and I figured it was her normal operating
procedures.

>How much was this interest. I have a part interest in several drug
>companies too because I own their stock.

No,no. Futures. That means that the investment company bet
on when the drug indices would go up and when they would go down.

>
>
>>>
>>>BTW: the "implemetation in secret" suggestion gets close to the "tinfoil
>>>hat department". The US didn't have a system of secret laws at that time.
>>
>>One tin foil and I quit. I am not afflicted with this kind of
>>thinking. Instead, you might try to make the assumption that
>>I may know something, and am able to think fairly well. Resorting
>>to this approach does not become you.
>
>I have tried that assumption. It doesn't work well on this claim and
>several others you have made. The fact that you can't see that the claims
>you've made is destroying your credibility has really surprised me.

I wouldn't have surprised you 10 years ago. Then I had to begin
studying politics, military knowledge, history, finance, banking,
etc. I'd have loved to have stayed in hippie mode but events
required I grow up.

I'm now on my second bout of the flu. So my writing
is going to be less clear.

<GRIN> Now you may say, "Oh, joy!"

/BAH
From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
> >rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
> >> krw wrote:
> >> > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
> >> > > T Wake wrote:
> >> > > > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> >> > > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>It [China] can't be communism if they encorage capitalism can it ?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > They are not encouraging capitalism in lieu of their brand
> >> > > > > of communism. They are trying out pieces of it. Their
> >> > > > > field test site is usually the area next door to Hong Kong.
> >> > > > > If something works, they move it to Shanghia. I am assuming
> >> > > > > that the pieces that merge nicely with their political methods
> >> > > > > will creep throughout its economy.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Which is why it isnt considered a communist economy (any more) by
> >> > > > normal people.
> >> > >
> >> > > It's more like a mixed economy run by a party that still calls
> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > > itself communist.
> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >
> >> > Too funny! Dumb donkey.
> >>
> >> Pray tell what amuses you here.
> >
> >If you can't tell, you are a far dumber donkey than anyone here
> >ever suspected. ...and that's going a far piece!
>
> I don't think he is able.

Can you tell me what amsues him in the above ?


> He has been born and bred with
> this attitude and anything else is so foreign that he cannot
> see that POV. It's similar to my inability to understand
> how royalty functioned in Europe.

You're barking mad.

Graham