From: Eeyore on


T Wake wrote:

> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > krw wrote:
> >> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
> >> > krw wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I do not agree that war == violence.
> >> >
> >> > Oh that makes it all fine then.
> >>
> >> If you're stupid enough to belive it is, you really need a brain
> >> transplant. The premiss is false thus any conclusions are useless,
> >> dumb, donkey.
> >
> > Whooosssshhhhh !
>
> It is interesting to note that previously in this thread krw stated "No,
> [war] it's state sponsored violence" when he wanted to make a different
> point.
>
> It is very hard to argue with some one who will redefine the meaning of
> every word each time they want to make a new point.
>
> This is part of the very early arguments in this thread - namely that the
> "war on terror" is a complete misnomer.

Not to mention a complete farce / waste of time and money.

Graham


From: jmfbahciv on
In article <C18DE458.4E65A%dbowey(a)comcast.net>,
Don Bowey <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>On 11/25/06 6:46 AM, in article
>ek9l0m$8qk_004(a)s1007.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com, "jmfbahciv(a)aol.com"
><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <456852A0.1C71A701(a)hotmail.com>,
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I wasn't suggesting changing the constitution per se !
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure each state could run its own baby-NHS quite effectively and
that
>>>>> would then overcome your objections to size and scale too.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure each state could not.
>>>
>>> Why not ?
>>
>> They would expect the Federal govnerment to fund it.
>
>
>
>Oregon has it's own medical plan.

Who funds it? Perhaps a better question is: Is it funded?
If so, how is it funded? Mass. passed the edict that all
has to have insurance but hasn't funded it yet.
<cleanup>

/BAH
From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> In case you two haven't noticed, the trend is to make possession
> of tobacco illegal.

No sweetheart. It's the smoking of it where it's not wanted that's becoming
illegal.

Graham

From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45695694.974F9F44(a)hotmail.com...
>
>
> krw wrote:
>
>> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
>> > Don Bowey wrote:
>> > > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Heck, they even go to war so Bechtel and Halliburton can pick up
>> > > > uncontested
>> > > > contracts.
>> > > >
>> > > > Graham
>> > >
>> > > You just went to the top my extreme-nonsense-author list.
>> >
>> > You reckon the need for re-construction wasn't considered until after
>> > the event ?
>> >
>> > Why were British companies excluded from tendering ?
>>
>> US money => US law => US company. Dumb donkey!
>
> So it *was* to line the pockets of US construction companies then !

Sadly, as the US has control of the Iraqi reconstruction effort the above
equation can be adjusted to Every Nation's Money => US Control => US
Company.

There is nothing like a free and fair market...


From: jmfbahciv on
In article <MPG.1fd256edc2f9f8a9989c95(a)news.individual.net>,
krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
>In article <4567FF01.3954B6E4(a)hotmail.com>,
>rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
>>
>>
>> krw wrote:
>>
>> > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
>> > > krw wrote:
>> > > > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
>> > > > > krw wrote:
>> > > > > > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net says...
>> > > > > > > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
>> > > > > > > > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> Once again, I'll ask you to think about administering your
>> > > > > > > >> NHS to all of Europe. That is how the US has to work.
>> > > > > > > >> We essentially 50 countries, each has its own politics,
economy
>> > > > > > > >> and different priority lists.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > It is a shame you have such a low opinion of the American
people.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > It's also quite a shame that she has such a lack of
understanding of the US
>> > > > > > > Constitution, to think that no national program is possible.
There are
>> > > > > > > plenty of national programs in the US, and they work fine.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > All (not operated through the states) are unconstitutional, as
>> > > > > > well. None come close to 17% of the GNP either, though you'd
>> > > > > > likely be all for nationalizing the oil companies too.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > What would be the point of that ?
>> > > >
>> > > > It makes as much sense as nationalizing health care; none. Why
>> > > > don't you nationalize food production while you're at it?
>> > >
>> > > Who said anything about nationalisation ?
>> >
>> > What exactly do you think *NATIONALIZED* Health Care is?
>> >
>> > Dumb donkey!
>>
>> The NHS *does not* nationalise all health care.
>>
>> Private practice continues and GPs run their own practices essentially as
they like. They
>> simply receive a salary from the NHS.
>
>If they receive a salary from the NHS, their practices *have* been
>nationalized. They're no longer in control of their business.
>Sheesh!
>
There is something more important here. He cannot conceive
of a medical distriubtion system that isn't completely
controlled by the national government. This means that
he doesn't require chocies and is willing to allow a few
politicians make all this decisions for him. This means
that when his politicians do screw him, he has no means
to save himself.

/BAH