From: T Wake on

"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
news:52483$456b1860$49ecfde$979(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> In article <MPG.1fd28e4b92c5a97989cc1(a)news.individual.net>,
>> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <asydncaDLYw_J_XYRVnygg(a)pipex.net>, usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com
>>>says...
>>>
>>>>"Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck(a)googlemail.com> wrote in
>>>>message
>>>>news:phineaspuddleduck-416009.21422525112006(a)free.teranews.com...
>>>>
>>>>>In article <Ls-dnZRLjKdkKvXYnZ2dnUVZ8smdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
>>>>>"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I certainly agree on that. "Chavs" have a tendency to crop up most in
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>>areas most affected by Thacherite policies.
>>>>>
>>>>>It seems to be a rebellion to the way things were done. You have the
>>>>>worst of both systems. The right wing view that everything now
>>>>>disallowed is permissible, and the left wing view that the state should
>>>>>mollycoddle you. Add that to a fanatical hatred of anything not "local"
>>>>>and "familar" and you have a chav.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm left of centre myself. I can see the need for the state to keep
>>>>>checks and balances, but human nature sometimes really makes me cry!
>>>>
>>>>Prior to getting embroiled in this thread, I thought I was fairly right
>>>>of centre. I now see the error in my ways and I am firmly left of centre
>>>>now.
>>
>> I
>>>>suspect half the apparently right wing extremists posting on this thread
>>>>live very different lives away from USENET.
>>>
>>>No, you're a left-wing extremist, right there with the dumb donkey. This
>>>isn't surprising since you're both socialist Europeons.
>>>
>>
>>
>> To you, anyone to the left of Atilla the Hun is a socialist.
>
> You probably ought to read history about Attila (and note the
> spelling, it's not a Brit name.)

A lot of it depends on which bits of history you want to read about Attila
(same with most of the other "demons" from that period - the Vandals were
far from vandalous). Modern historians have largely managed to throw off the
Roman Catholic dogma about the dark ages.

(And as an aside, I don't think Lloyd is a brit)


From: John Fields on
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 01:18:47 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message
>news:qogjm2h2o3omue5is96u5d5ceut4bndgjc(a)4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:55:10 +0000, Phineas T Puddleduck
>> <phineaspuddleduck(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <ekc3qu$8ss_007(a)s963.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is something more important here. He cannot conceive
>>>> of a medical distriubtion system that isn't completely
>>>> controlled by the national government. This means that
>>>> he doesn't require chocies and is willing to allow a few
>>>> politicians make all this decisions for him. This means
>>>> that when his politicians do screw him, he has no means
>>>> to save himself.
>>>
>>>Our Health Service is NOT completely controlled by Govt. Funded by not
>>>equal to controlled by. Are contractors controlled by their funders?
>>
>> ---
>> By and large, yes.
>>
>> If I hire a contractor to put a new roof on my house I will expect
>> him to put a new roof on my house.
>>
>> Similarly, I expect that your government, if it's funding the health
>> service, expects certain norms of competence to be exhibited by the
>> contractors (doctors) it hires. Also, I'm sure there are certain
>> basic rules laid down by the government which the health service,
>> itself, must follow, which _is_ control. Am I wrong?
>
>Yes. Aetna pays doctors to perform services, but I don't know a practicing
>doctor who would say that Aetna controls what they do.

---
Not true, in the sense that I'm sure Aetna tells them what they must
_not_ do, which is control as well.


--
JF
From: JoeBloe on
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:44:43 +0000, Phineas T Puddleduck
<phineaspuddleduck(a)googlemail.com> Gave us:

>In article <mmvjm2hqo6e1n5umtk2lui4kjutvjh4idf(a)4ax.com>,
> JoeBloe <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:38:11 -0600, John Fields
>> <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> Gave us:
>>
>> >>That is probably the worst precis of European history I have ever read.
>> >
>> >---
>> >Yeah. I know. I left out the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, two
>> >world wars that we got dragged into and a lot more fun stuff like
>> >that.
>> >---
>>
>> Hehehehahahahahahah... I like it!
>
>Simple things please simple minds.
>

You mean like a retard like you hanging out in Usenet?
From: Michael A. Terrell on
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>
> On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:41:28 GMT, the renowned "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >Ken Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <4568E61C.7E27585B(a)earthlink.net>,
> >> Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >Ken Smith wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> In article <MPG.1fd11c17f0518b5a989c65(a)news.individual.net>,
> >> >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
> >> >> [.....]
> >> >> >Whether you like it or not, radio is an interstate issue. Perhaps
> >> >> >there should be some local control for ultra=-low power, but other
> >> >> >than that 50 FCCs would be a nightmare. Can you imagine getting 50
> >> >> >certifications for a piece of gear?
> >> >>
> >> >> I like radio just fine.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is radio "interstate commerce" if the broadcast can't be heard in another
> >> >> state? If not, I don't think the constitution gives the federal
> >> >> government preemptive control.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > You can't keep the signal from crossing the state lines at night. I
> >> >can hear radio stations from Ohio (700 KHz) and Tennessee (650 KHz) at
> >> >night on the standard AM broadcast band. I can hear stations from most
> >> >of the rest of the world on the shortwave bands. Not only is the RF
> >> >spectrum controlled from the federal level, it is controlled under
> >> >international agreement.
> >>
> >> Things like FM and 802.11 can be kept within the bounds of a state. In
> >> that case, it is not "interstate commerce".
> >
> >
> > Explain why WACX TV in Orange City Florida is required to block their
> >signal from radiating out over the Atlantic ocean.
>
> Are they actually required to, or do they just use a directional
> antenna to optimize the signal strength where there are actually
> receivers?


It did nothing to improve the radiated signal across the state of
Florida. In fact, it reduced the signal level in a few small fringe
areas. I think the FCC didn't want the programs to reach Cuba.

When I worked there we got letters from people in Texas that could
pick up a crystal clear picture for hours at a time, when the sun spots
were more active. One man claimed a full eight hours one evening, till
well past midnight. He gave enough accurate details about our
programming that we sent him a letter thanking him for his report.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
From: JoeBloe on
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 01:14:34 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us:

>
>"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
>news:b5gjm2lhjfg85cgogqf0ooj1aj37glfl0v(a)4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 04:26:34 +0000 (UTC), kensmith(a)green.rahul.net
>> (Ken Smith) Gave us:
>>
>>> Industries that use
>>>computers for things that could kill you usually have standards that rule
>>>out Windows.
>>
>> You're an idiot.
>
>While that may be true, he is correct.
>
>Eric Lucas
>
No, he is not correct, which is yet one more reason why he qualifies
as idiot.