From: Lloyd Parker on
In article <ekcf5f$8ss_003(a)s1173.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>In article <4569A930.C59A51E2(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Are you assuming that the only way people can get "good medical
>>> >> treatment" is through a government-controlled entity?
>>> >
>>> >Absolutely not, yet the evidence is that the current US system
>'encourages'
>>> >inefficiency and overcharging so it's become too costly for many to get
>the
>>> >health care they deserve.
>>>
>>> Who decides who deserves what? The patient? The politican
>>> who is buying votes? The bureaucrat who you just pissed off?
>>
>>In the NHS the doctor(s) determines your treatment.
>
>After, and only after, permission is granted by the government.
>Those doctors have a list of things they can't do....that's
>what you've told me.

Why is that worse than the insurance companies doing it here?

>>
>>
>>> And yet, you are talking about health care. The politicians
>>> in this don't talk about that; they talk about insurance
>>> as something everybody deserves.
>>
>>Is it actually real insurance or notional insurance ?
>
>It is what our politicians mean when they advocate national
>health _insurance_ which also means a single-payer system.
>
>/BAH
From: Lloyd Parker on
In article <MPG.1fd28e4b92c5a97989cc1(a)news.individual.net>,
krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
>In article <asydncaDLYw_J_XYRVnygg(a)pipex.net>,
>usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com says...
>>
>> "Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:phineaspuddleduck-416009.21422525112006(a)free.teranews.com...
>> > In article <Ls-dnZRLjKdkKvXYnZ2dnUVZ8smdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
>> > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I certainly agree on that. "Chavs" have a tendency to crop up most in
the
>> >> areas most affected by Thacherite policies.
>> >
>> > It seems to be a rebellion to the way things were done. You have the
>> > worst of both systems. The right wing view that everything now
>> > disallowed is permissible, and the left wing view that the state should
>> > mollycoddle you. Add that to a fanatical hatred of anything not "local"
>> > and "familar" and you have a chav.
>> >
>> > I'm left of centre myself. I can see the need for the state to keep
>> > checks and balances, but human nature sometimes really makes me cry!
>>
>> Prior to getting embroiled in this thread, I thought I was fairly right of
>> centre. I now see the error in my ways and I am firmly left of centre now.
I
>> suspect half the apparently right wing extremists posting on this thread
>> live very different lives away from USENET.
>
>No, you're a left-wing extremist, right there with the dumb donkey.
>This isn't surprising since you're both socialist Europeons.
>

To you, anyone to the left of Atilla the Hun is a socialist.

>> I wonder if Americans have chavs.
>
>Haven't a clue what it is, nor an interest in googling it.
>
From: Lloyd Parker on
In article <d6db5$4568f041$4fe7791$11303(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>Phineas T Puddleduck wrote:
>
>> In article <FOCdnQH6YZ2HQvXYRVnyrQ(a)pipex.net>,
>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Well, not so much idiot but total lack of _any_ grasp of History. It has
>>>been a fair while since our monarch had "absolute power."
>>
>>
>> If one of course wanted to be totally picky and vindictive, you could
>> point out it was not that much further after the US was founded.
>>
>
>Magna Carta limited the power of the king in 1215.
>

It also only empowered the nobility, not the common folk. That came much
later.

>It was more than 5 more centuries before the US was founded.
>
>But you're Welsh, so what would you know....
>
From: Phineas T Puddleduck on
In article <ekf12b$abg$9(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:

> It also only empowered the nobility, not the common folk. That came much
> later.
>
> >It was more than 5 more centuries before the US was founded.
> >
> >But you're Welsh, so what would you know....
> >

Did he really just say that about the Welsh, Lloyd? Wow I am so glad I
killfiled the maroon, his ignorance truly knows no bounds.

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From: Don Klipstein on
In article <456A8AF0.44406E4A(a)earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>Don Klipstein wrote:
>>
>> In article <4568E226.6C4193FE(a)earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>> >Don Bowey wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Oregon has it's own medical plan.
>> >
>> > And a fine job they do, letting their mental patients run free to
>> >make threatening phone calls to people. One has lost multiple ISP
>> >accounts for threatening people online, been bared from the local
>> >Wal-Mart, and arrested for trying to run over someone, as well.
>>
>> Are you arguing on basis of the actions of one person in the entire US
>> "state" of Oregon?
>>
>> - Don Klipstein (don(a)misty.com)
>
> Isn't one person making threatening phone calls to your friends
>enough to show that their system doesn't work? Here are some of his mor
>luciod posts: http://home.earthlink.net/~michaelaterrell/Dinius-02.txt
>BTW, it is a huge text file, probably 8 MB or more.

Well, I don't think Pennsylvania had only one person making threatening
phone calls or threatening people online!

- Don Klipstein (don(a)misty.com)