From: Lloyd Parker on 27 Nov 2006 06:00 In article <ekcf5f$8ss_003(a)s1173.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >In article <4569A930.C59A51E2(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> > >>> >> Are you assuming that the only way people can get "good medical >>> >> treatment" is through a government-controlled entity? >>> > >>> >Absolutely not, yet the evidence is that the current US system >'encourages' >>> >inefficiency and overcharging so it's become too costly for many to get >the >>> >health care they deserve. >>> >>> Who decides who deserves what? The patient? The politican >>> who is buying votes? The bureaucrat who you just pissed off? >> >>In the NHS the doctor(s) determines your treatment. > >After, and only after, permission is granted by the government. >Those doctors have a list of things they can't do....that's >what you've told me. Why is that worse than the insurance companies doing it here? >> >> >>> And yet, you are talking about health care. The politicians >>> in this don't talk about that; they talk about insurance >>> as something everybody deserves. >> >>Is it actually real insurance or notional insurance ? > >It is what our politicians mean when they advocate national >health _insurance_ which also means a single-payer system. > >/BAH
From: Lloyd Parker on 27 Nov 2006 05:39 In article <MPG.1fd28e4b92c5a97989cc1(a)news.individual.net>, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >In article <asydncaDLYw_J_XYRVnygg(a)pipex.net>, >usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com says... >> >> "Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >> news:phineaspuddleduck-416009.21422525112006(a)free.teranews.com... >> > In article <Ls-dnZRLjKdkKvXYnZ2dnUVZ8smdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, >> > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> > >> >> I certainly agree on that. "Chavs" have a tendency to crop up most in the >> >> areas most affected by Thacherite policies. >> > >> > It seems to be a rebellion to the way things were done. You have the >> > worst of both systems. The right wing view that everything now >> > disallowed is permissible, and the left wing view that the state should >> > mollycoddle you. Add that to a fanatical hatred of anything not "local" >> > and "familar" and you have a chav. >> > >> > I'm left of centre myself. I can see the need for the state to keep >> > checks and balances, but human nature sometimes really makes me cry! >> >> Prior to getting embroiled in this thread, I thought I was fairly right of >> centre. I now see the error in my ways and I am firmly left of centre now. I >> suspect half the apparently right wing extremists posting on this thread >> live very different lives away from USENET. > >No, you're a left-wing extremist, right there with the dumb donkey. >This isn't surprising since you're both socialist Europeons. > To you, anyone to the left of Atilla the Hun is a socialist. >> I wonder if Americans have chavs. > >Haven't a clue what it is, nor an interest in googling it. >
From: Lloyd Parker on 27 Nov 2006 05:42 In article <d6db5$4568f041$4fe7791$11303(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Phineas T Puddleduck wrote: > >> In article <FOCdnQH6YZ2HQvXYRVnyrQ(a)pipex.net>, >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >> >>>Well, not so much idiot but total lack of _any_ grasp of History. It has >>>been a fair while since our monarch had "absolute power." >> >> >> If one of course wanted to be totally picky and vindictive, you could >> point out it was not that much further after the US was founded. >> > >Magna Carta limited the power of the king in 1215. > It also only empowered the nobility, not the common folk. That came much later. >It was more than 5 more centuries before the US was founded. > >But you're Welsh, so what would you know.... >
From: Phineas T Puddleduck on 27 Nov 2006 11:07 In article <ekf12b$abg$9(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > It also only empowered the nobility, not the common folk. That came much > later. > > >It was more than 5 more centuries before the US was founded. > > > >But you're Welsh, so what would you know.... > > Did he really just say that about the Welsh, Lloyd? Wow I am so glad I killfiled the maroon, his ignorance truly knows no bounds. -- Just \int_0^\infty du it! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Don Klipstein on 27 Nov 2006 11:39
In article <456A8AF0.44406E4A(a)earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell wrote: >Don Klipstein wrote: >> >> In article <4568E226.6C4193FE(a)earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> >Don Bowey wrote: >> >> >> >> Oregon has it's own medical plan. >> > >> > And a fine job they do, letting their mental patients run free to >> >make threatening phone calls to people. One has lost multiple ISP >> >accounts for threatening people online, been bared from the local >> >Wal-Mart, and arrested for trying to run over someone, as well. >> >> Are you arguing on basis of the actions of one person in the entire US >> "state" of Oregon? >> >> - Don Klipstein (don(a)misty.com) > > Isn't one person making threatening phone calls to your friends >enough to show that their system doesn't work? Here are some of his mor >luciod posts: http://home.earthlink.net/~michaelaterrell/Dinius-02.txt >BTW, it is a huge text file, probably 8 MB or more. Well, I don't think Pennsylvania had only one person making threatening phone calls or threatening people online! - Don Klipstein (don(a)misty.com) |