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From: MassiveProng on 1 Feb 2007 21:30 On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:48:29 +0000, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Note that a tech is paid to have tunnel vision. > >Not today there aren't. > She is like the ten classes of computer user where the class one is a dip that doesn't even know what cursor keys are for. A test tech does the same routine procedure over and over and over again, and that is her only perception of what a "tech" is. She is only about 3 orders of magnitude off of what real technicians are, much less those of us that are engineers.
From: Ken Smith on 1 Feb 2007 21:33 In article <d26e$45c298f8$49ecf9f$6044(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: [.....] >As a second reply to you on this specific, it seems to me >that one of the problems is that Wake, Eeyore, and Smith >reply with a fantastic depth of detailed objections in >response to relatively brief conceptual presentations. > >They bury the discussion with all that stuff. The only >message they allow to get through is that the US is at >fault. What absolute nonsense. I certainly have never said "it is all the US's fault". You would confuse "your neck tie isn't straight" with "you are totally naked". I have pointed out places where errors were made by the US or more specifically Bush. Others have pointed out things like "the US is seen as the most dangerous". Neither of these are saying that the the problem is explusively the creation of the US. All that has been pointed out is that the US has taken a bad situation and made it worse. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: MassiveProng on 1 Feb 2007 21:38 On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:10:33 +0000, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: > > >unsettled wrote: > >> Eeyore wrote: >> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> > >> >>Most devices these days are in warm start mode. Instead >> >>of measuring before and after power-on, the tests need >> >>to measure before and after _plug-in_. >> > >> > >> > Nothing is measured when it isn't plugged in ! >> >> You display your ignorance. The background is measured. > >After I hit send I realised I should have written "no product". I just knew an >idiot would complain. And I sat back and watched them do it... Knowing it was coming.
From: MassiveProng on 1 Feb 2007 21:40 On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:21:10 +0000 (UTC), kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) Gave us: >In article <45C202E9.5BF28095(a)hotmail.com>, >Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>unsettled wrote: >> >>> Eeyore wrote: >>> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> > >>> >>Most devices these days are in warm start mode. Instead >>> >>of measuring before and after power-on, the tests need >>> >>to measure before and after _plug-in_. >>> > >>> > >>> > Nothing is measured when it isn't plugged in ! >>> >>> You display your ignorance. The background is measured. >> >>After I hit send I realised I should have written "no product". I just knew an >>idiot would complain. > >Still wrong. You missed all the cases where there is a backup battery. >You have to measure when the plug is pulled adn the backup is in use too. "All the cases". Dude, this is a single test. MY CASE. Only ONE. No backup batteries sleep modes or any other made up baby bullshit.
From: MassiveProng on 1 Feb 2007 21:42
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:05:58 +0000, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: > > >krw wrote: > >> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >> > unsettled wrote: >> > > Eeyore wrote: >> > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> > > >>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > > >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> > > >>>>MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >> > > >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>You don't need an anechoic chamber btw. >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>How do you measure the EMF in "noisy" environments? >> > > >>>>>>Or don't you need numbers anymore? >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Device off, sensors read baseline noise reading. >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Device on, sensors read local differential. Extrapolations get >> > > >>>>>made, figures get arrived at. Task complete. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>>Your test has a big huge unfixable flaw. >> > > >>> >> > > >>>Perhaps you'd like to elaborate on that assertion ? >> > > >> >> > > >>The device has to be unplugged to get the baseline reading. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > That's what "device off" MEANS ! >> > > > >> > > > Good Lord ! How daft are you ? >> > > >> > > LOL >> > > >> > > These days "device off" isn't really off. >> > >> > It is when the power cord isn't plugged in you cretin. >> >> Dumb donkey, that's what "unplugged" means. Wow, you are dense! > >The standards do not use the word 'unplugged'. > >Graham Very concise, they are. Energized, and de-energized. There is no way for any scientist to confuse the meanings. Power applied... NO power applied. It really is THAT SIMPLE. |