From: unsettled on
Phil Carmody wrote:

> You are wrong. You know very little. All that became declassified
> a decade ago. It all started in 1939. I keep saying this but
> your clue-resistance is just too strong. I don't believe you'll
> ever learn to tell the truth from falsity.

No substantiation = bullshit

Q.E.D.





From: Phil Carmody on
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes:
> Phil Carmody wrote:
>
> > You are wrong. You know very little. All that became declassified
> > a decade ago. It all started in 1939. I keep saying this but your
> > clue-resistance is just too strong. I don't believe you'll
> > ever learn to tell the truth from falsity.
>
> No substantiation = bullshit

Here's one claim of yours:
<<<
Nuclear chain reaction wasn't even proved till 1942. So much
for your earlier "research."
>>>
It was proved to be theoretically possible in 1933 by the work
of Szil�rd and independently by Curie the same year. The only
thing that wasn't known was the critical mass. Heisenberg had
the wrong model, Szil�rd and Curie had the right model.

Time to bring up another quote of yours:
<<<
Szilard and others were trying to keep up with what the Germans
were doing in their nuclear program.
>>>
Funny, given that the Germans had the wrong mathematical model,
and the Hungarians had the right one. Sure, when it came to
putting budget and manpower behind it, the Germans were way
ahead earlier on, but when it came to the theoretical physics,
thanks to all those talented Central/Eastern European immigrants,
the US had an enormous edge.

Sorry, but your hit rate is just so pitifully low that it
would take an entire lifetime to correct all your errors. It's
just not worth the effort.

Phil
--
"Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank
so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of
/In God We Trust, Inc./.
From: unsettled on
Phil Carmody wrote:

> Sorry, but your hit rate is just so pitifully low that it
> would take an entire lifetime to correct all your errors. It's
> just not worth the effort.


Once again no substantiation, and in any case, your
examples failed to address research into the actual
making of a bomb. You've presented little stories
which even if true don't alter the 3 years to make
the 1st A bomb timeline.

No one had the idea for a nuclear bomb till Einstein's
1905 paper. So by the standards you've been spouting
that's when it all began.

My line in the sand, Manhattan Project, trumps your
unsubstantiated line in the sand.

Feel free to go pound sand.

From: T Wake on

"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
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> Eeyore wrote:
>
<snip>

>> The big problem is making enough fissile material. A huge effort was
>> required to
>> make enough for the 3 bombs the USA exploded before the end of WW2.
>
> Less material is needed today.

Makes you wonder why more countries don't do it then.


From: T Wake on

"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
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>T Wake wrote:
>
>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:epsoo9$8qk_016(a)s807.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>
>>>In article <epo483$kra$1(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>>What part of "not having an atomic bomb for quite some years" do you not
>>>>understand?
>>>
>>>The US started with no knowledge and built bombs within 3 years.
>>>This included all of the infrastructure required.
>>>The knowledge has been around for five decades so nobody
>>>has to do that work.
>>>
>>>Why does everybody assume that countries have to take longer to
>>>assemble a bomb?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting. Before we even begin to think about this new question, are
>> you saying (now) that Iran has a competent industrialised system which is
>> capable of the manufacturing required?
>
>
> People are the critical factor for this. They have a good
> number that were "made in the USA" by our universities.
>

Yet, a few weeks ago, BAH was saying that the Islamic countries in the
middle east had no idea how to make things and were not able to match
industrialised nations.

As a result, I am intrigued if her position has changed.

Educated people is not the issue here.