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From: jmfbahciv on 2 Feb 2007 06:58 In article <Je6dnSM7i4LLCF3YnZ2dnUVZ8saonZ2d(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:epq281$8qk_001(a)s856.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <a_WdnXJGRKBVMiLYRVnytwA(a)pipex.net>, >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:epnqqm$8ss_017(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <MvidnQbxmY5PSCHYnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, >>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:epi5ci$8ss_002(a)s804.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>>> >>>>>> I'm trying to address a mistaken assumption these people are >>>>>> making. Their idea of war is when two highly organized groups, >>>>>> each funded and supplied by a single government, meet on >>>>>> a field somewhere and shoot at each other; thus, conflicts of >>>>>> any other nature has to be treated as criminal and apply >>>>>> a country's criminal law to each individual. >>>>> >>>>>Oh dear. The last two weeks of posts have vanished out of your memory >>>>>now, >>>>>haven't they? >>>> >>>> I'm still working on the original problem; I haven't solved it. >>>> >>> >>> >>>While you are doing that you can remind us what the purpose of the Geneva >>>convention is (in your opinion) >> >> It was an argreement among countries about the rules of fighting >> were when they were fighting each other. Boxing, or any sport, >> does the same thing. This is a Western idea. > >Do you feel a nation, which is at war with a nation which is not a signatory >to the Convention is bound by the terms of the convention? No, not when it creates weakness. > >>> and what European country asked the US for >>>help in Korea. >>> >>>That would be an excellent start. >> >> I'll talk about the fighting that happened under Truman after WWII. >> AT that time, none of the European free countries were in any >> position to wage the coming fights that were to be called the >> Cold War. Yet these same countries did not want Communism to >> spread. So the US was the only country who had enough resources >> to lead and do most of the supplying. > >So in reality, when Truman went to the UN to request support and a UNSCR to >justify the conflict, this was actually an unnamed European nation >requesting US help? The UN was created to deal with problems that would cause another world war. If Truman had not gone the UN, the UN would have been as pitifully weak as the League of Nations. It was not in US' best interests to constantly keep bailing out Europe whenever they got their wooden heads wedged. > >Instead of saying what you plan to talk about, why not identify which >European nations requested US assistance in Korea? > >This may be of interest to you: (The wonders of wiki) > >"The North's start of an all-out civil war came as a surprise to the Western >powers. The U.S. did not have an emergency response force ready, but it did >have a large military and reserves, and a cadre of highly experienced >officers and sergeants. President Harry S Truman ordered U.S. naval and air >forces to stem the North Korean advance, but they were not allowed to attack >north of the 38th parallel, and especially not into Chinese or Russian >territory. >The initial units sent in were drawn from the U.S. occupation forces in >Japan under the command of General Douglas MacArthur. Truman ordered >MacArthur to transfer munitions to the South Korean Army and to use air >cover to protect the evacuation of American citizens. Truman also ordered >the Seventh Fleet to protect the island of Taiwan. Although the Chinese >Nationalists offered to participate in the war, the Americans declined >because they were poorly equipped and trained, and politically, there was a >risk that Nationalist participation would encourage overt intervention by >the Chinese communists. The first significant American combat unit to arrive >in South Korea was Task Force Smith, part of the U.S. Army 24th Infantry >Division based in Japan. On July 5, it engaged in the first North >Korean-American clash of the war at Osan. > >The United Nations immediately acted, ordering the invaders to withdraw and >calling all members to support South Korea. European nations were a part of this request. It was an important part of the Marshall Plan to allow the European countries to have a say in how to deal with their looming enemy, Communism in Russian clothes. > A UN command was established >under the control of the United States. Britain, Australia and other Western >powers quickly showed support and volunteered to aid in the effort." I European references in that sentence. /BAH
From: Phil Carmody on 2 Feb 2007 07:31 unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes: > Phil Carmody wrote: [SNIP - direct referenced counters to unsettles's jabber] > > Sorry, but your hit rate is just so pitifully low that it > > would take an entire lifetime to correct all your errors. It's just > > not worth the effort. > > > Once again no substantiation, My god, your intelligence knows no lower bound. > Feel free to go pound sand. I've known that's what's in your head for several posts now. It's getting tiring to pound it. It refuses to learn. Phil -- "Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of /In God We Trust, Inc./.
From: MassiveProng on 2 Feb 2007 07:33 On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 03:50:26 +0000, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: > > >MassiveProng wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >> >unsettled wrote: >> >> Phil Carmody wrote: >> >> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes: >> >> > >> >> >>The US started with no knowledge and built bombs within 3 years. >> >> >>This included all of the infrastructure required. >> >> >>The knowledge has been around for five decades so nobody >> >> >>has to do that work. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > It also includes the requirement that you think 6 is 3. >> >> > >> >> > BAH maths is BAD maths. >> >> > >> >> > It also presumes that Szil?rd, Teller, Einstein and Oppenheimer, >> >> > had no knowledge before they started working on the projects. >> >> >> >> Why didn't you simply include the entire history of mankind >> >> and start with "Adam" then" >> >> >> >> Einstein *never* worked on the bomb project. His input was >> >> limited to sending a letter at Szilard's request. >> >> >> >> The rest of them, including the important work done by >> >> Wheeler's group at Princeton and Bohr, started with the >> >> Manhattan Project. The problems to be solved were not >> >> whether or not a bomb could work, but actually making it >> >> work, and a contingent trying to figure out whether or not >> >> once started a chain reaction wouldn't extend to the entire >> >> planet. >> >> >> >> > Weird, as Szil?rd was researching the matter at about the same >> >> > time as the Erm?chtigungsgesetz was kicking in (but not publishing >> >> > his work for that very reason). >> >> >> >> Szilard and others were trying to keep up with what the Germans >> >> were doing in their nuclear program. We sent a mission to >> >> destroy Germany's heavy water facility in Norway. >> >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage >> >> >> >> > BAH history is BAD history. >> >> >> >> She's accurate with her time scale of 3 years. And her point >> >> is also correct that any country with decent math, science and >> >> technology can duplicate the effort in ~3 years, perhaps less, >> >> by mounting an effort much smaller than the Manhattan Project >> >> was given the wealth of knowledge in the public domain. >> > >> >The big problem is making enough fissile material. A huge effort was required to >> >make enough for the 3 bombs the USA exploded before the end of WW2. >> > >> >> That was just over 100 Lbs of first generation weak grade material. >> >> NOW, we can do it with less weight, and much more responsive media. > >We can, but can a beginner get it right ? > The assistance they are being provided with goes orders of magnitude beyond what we had as "beginners". It is silly to think that they are being provided with near state of the art equipment, and no instruction manual or on site advisors to go with it. It only takes one microgram of common sense to know that they can make bombs far more powerful than our first, and likely more powerful than those the Pakistanis that are helping them made years ago. They need to be set back to the stone age for even trying.
From: Phil Carmody on 2 Feb 2007 07:42 MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> writes: > On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:06:17 -0600, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> > Gave us: > > >Here's one with an embedded computer: > > It has no computer. > > It has what I described earlier. A clock, a cook timer, and some > temp probe ports. > > Oh, and it has a "Sabbath Mode". > > No computer. A DSP and a display controller at best. Atmel, Freescale, and suchlike call those kinds of chips "Microcontrollers" rather than DSPs. They'll be single digit MHz, single digit KB Flash ROM, and often less than a KB of actual RAM. They cost only cents each. Only a "computer" in an early 1970s context, or earlier. Phil -- "Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of /In God We Trust, Inc./.
From: MassiveProng on 2 Feb 2007 07:47
On Wed, 06 Dec 06 14:12:20 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: >In article <el6gso$r3s$2(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>In article <9857e$45761fc1$4fe7071$17377(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: ><snip> > >>>> How indeed? The mortgage industry is luring people who can't afford it, >>with >>>> interest-only loans, no down payments, etc. That's why defaults are up. >>> >>>That's not the main reason. Check those default folks' other >>>financial arrangements to discover how badly they're >>>mismanaging *everything.* >> >>A lot are people who've lost their jobs due to illness or the company >>downsizing or outsourcing. > >Why are you allowed to give third information as fact and we can't? > Perhaps it is due to badly mismanaged brain function on your part. Shame we cannot call for a forfeiture, and a repossession of the asset. It's OK. Nobody wants a poorly used brain anyway. |