From: MassiveProng on
On 01 Feb 2007 18:45:03 +0200, Phil Carmody
<thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> Gave us:

>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes:
>> The US started with no knowledge and built bombs within 3 years.
>> This included all of the infrastructure required.
>> The knowledge has been around for five decades so nobody
>> has to do that work.
>
>It also includes the requirement that you think 6 is 3.
>
>BAH maths is BAD maths.
>
>It also presumes that Szil?rd, Teller, Einstein and Oppenheimer,
>had no knowledge before they started working on the projects.
>Weird, as Szil?rd was researching the matter at about the same
>time as the Erm?chtigungsgesetz was kicking in (but not publishing
>his work for that very reason).
>
>BAH history is BAD history.
>


BAHSHIT!

Gesundheit!
From: MassiveProng on
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:30:17 -0600, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com>
Gave us:

>An idiot named DumbDonkey splattered ascii that resembles:
>
>>
>> unsettled wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Eeyore wrote:
>>>
>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Most devices these days are in warm start mode. Instead
>>>>>of measuring before and after power-on, the tests need
>>>>>to measure before and after _plug-in_.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nothing is measured when it isn't plugged in !
>>>
>>>You display your ignorance. The background is measured.
>>
>>
>> After I hit send I realised I should have written "no product". I just knew an
>> idiot would complain.
>
>Crucial information is measured. This is a feeble
>attempt to cover up your stupidity.

Not many posts ago, you were baking up the BAHTard's assertion that
a baseline reading made it a flawed test.

Which is it? Crucial data extraction or flaw?
From: MassiveProng on
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:37:58 -0600, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com>
Gave us:

>Eeyore wrote:
>
>>
>> Ken Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Eeyore wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Most devices these days are in warm start mode. Instead
>>>>>>>of measuring before and after power-on, the tests need
>>>>>>>to measure before and after _plug-in_.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nothing is measured when it isn't plugged in !
>>>>>
>>>>>You display your ignorance. The background is measured.
>>>>
>>>>After I hit send I realised I should have written "no product". I just knew an
>>>>idiot would complain.
>>>
>>>Still wrong. You missed all the cases where there is a backup battery.
>>>You have to measure when the plug is pulled adn the backup is in use too.
>>
>>
>> Oh puhleeeze ! All this fuss over what's actually on and what's off ! I am aware of
>> the differences.
>>
>> I was only trying to address BAH's stupid stove.
>
>I'd want to make sure that there was no backup battery for
>the clock.

The clock shuts off and resets when she unplugs it.

Get a clue, dumb twit.
>
>You claim to be aware.

ROFL!

>When's the brain transplant?

You really spew some pretty lame lames there, lame-O.
From: MassiveProng on
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:55:51 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:

>
>
>unsettled wrote:
>
>> Eeyore wrote:
>> > unsettled wrote:
>> >>Eeyore wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>It's not a nightmare [EMC compliance]. I should know, I'm the one dealing with it
>> >>
>> >>in > my work not you.
>> >>
>> >>You *should* know.
>> >
>> >
>> > I *do* know.
>>
>> Everything you've written proves you *don't* know.
>
>Do tell how many products you've taken through the compliance process.

I know EXACTLY what that number is!

It ztartz with a Z.
From: MassiveProng on
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:35:30 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:

>
>
>unsettled wrote:
>
>> Phil Carmody wrote:
>> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes:
>> >
>> >>The US started with no knowledge and built bombs within 3 years.
>> >>This included all of the infrastructure required.
>> >>The knowledge has been around for five decades so nobody
>> >>has to do that work.
>> >
>> >
>> > It also includes the requirement that you think 6 is 3.
>> >
>> > BAH maths is BAD maths.
>> >
>> > It also presumes that Szil?rd, Teller, Einstein and Oppenheimer,
>> > had no knowledge before they started working on the projects.
>>
>> Why didn't you simply include the entire history of mankind
>> and start with "Adam" then"
>>
>> Einstein *never* worked on the bomb project. His input was
>> limited to sending a letter at Szilard's request.
>>
>> The rest of them, including the important work done by
>> Wheeler's group at Princeton and Bohr, started with the
>> Manhattan Project. The problems to be solved were not
>> whether or not a bomb could work, but actually making it
>> work, and a contingent trying to figure out whether or not
>> once started a chain reaction wouldn't extend to the entire
>> planet.
>>
>> > Weird, as Szil?rd was researching the matter at about the same
>> > time as the Erm?chtigungsgesetz was kicking in (but not publishing
>> > his work for that very reason).
>>
>> Szilard and others were trying to keep up with what the Germans
>> were doing in their nuclear program. We sent a mission to
>> destroy Germany's heavy water facility in Norway.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage
>>
>> > BAH history is BAD history.
>>
>> She's accurate with her time scale of 3 years. And her point
>> is also correct that any country with decent math, science and
>> technology can duplicate the effort in ~3 years, perhaps less,
>> by mounting an effort much smaller than the Manhattan Project
>> was given the wealth of knowledge in the public domain.
>
>The big problem is making enough fissile material. A huge effort was required to
>make enough for the 3 bombs the USA exploded before the end of WW2.
>

That was just over 100 Lbs of first generation weak grade material.

NOW, we can do it with less weight, and much more responsive media.