From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> So, if it's on its own circuit, how can the stove affect the
> >> wiring of the plug of the radio?
> >
> >You clearly don't understand how RF energy propagates. It doesn't matter
> >which circuit it's on.
>
> Exactly. And it can't be the house wiring.

Of course it can be.

Graham

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <epvis8$gav$4(a)blue.rahul.net>,
kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>In article <epvf18$8qk_024(a)s893.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>In article <eprlv2$8ag$2(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>>In article <epq6o6$8qk_005(a)s856.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>[.....]
>>>>>But not sovereign immunity (or Nixon wouldn't have needed that pardon).
>>>>
>>>>Nixon didn't need the pardon; the United States of America
>>>>needed that pardon. You may not remember the villification
>>>>Ford received because he took away all chances of getting
>>>>revenge.
>>>
>>>The villification had a lot of justification behind it. The current story
>>>is that Ford did it so that the issue would be over and the country could
>>>get back to dealing with more serious issues. A lot of people thought at
>>>the time and many still believe that this was the wrong thing to do.
>>
>>Sure.
>>
>>>
>>>If the trial had happened etc, people would have "seen justice done".
>>
>>There wouldn't have been a trail. It would have been delayed and
>>the center of Washington's attention for two decades. There were
>>other things that needed serious attention.
>
>What makes you say that. Trials seem to happen all the time in the US.
>Nobody is supposed to be above the law, so how exactly do you not see a
>trial?

The Nixon problem would have been used to delay work on anything
else.
>
>>
>>>People are a lot more willing to forgive someone who gets found guilty
>>>than someone who they see as having gotten special treatment.
>>
>>Requiring the opportunity for you to "forgive" Nixon is a peurile
>>emotion.
>
>It is the public at large that never forgave him. They largely still
>haven't. The injury to the US remains.
>
>
>>>Nixon should have gone to jail over the 55MPH speed law and gotten 40
>>>lashes for the "Nixonomics".
>>
>>Do you honestly think that him going to jail was a worse punishment
>>than what did happen?
>
>I honestly believe that a trial and if he was convicted,

What if he weren't convicted?

> jail would have
>been treating him just like everyone else.

Do you honestly believe that he would have put into a jail?
Now I know you aren't dealing with reality. US Presidents
are fonts of security knowledge among others. There was no
way Nixon would have gone to any jail.

> Making him appear to be above
>the law was a dangerous thing to do.

He was not above the law. He got pardoned. That implies that
he did do bad things and had to be pardoned.

It would have worse if he was convicted and never went to jail; that
would have put him above the law.

/BAH

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <1bf3f$45c35b72$49ecf7f$11196(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> In article <c76aa$45c347bc$49ecf7f$10679(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>>
>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article <a0629$45c29c9e$49ecf9f$6118(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>MassiveProng wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 01 Feb 07 12:46:52 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It isn't the burners. It is the computer board in the stove that
>>>>>>>is bad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The stove has a clock, a cooking timer, and maybe some thermal probe
>>>>>>monitoring ports. That isn't a computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you want good AM reception, you need a good loop antenna. That
>>>>>>>>will keep the reception constant. Otherwise you have a serious issue
>>>>>>>>with your house wiring.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I dismissed the wiring because no other object plugged does
>>>>>>>this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The stove is not like ANY of the objects you describe. You have no
>>>>>>AC powered object in the house that is wired like, or gets its power
>>>>>
>>>>>>from the same branch... as the stove. It has its own SEPERATE AC
>>>>>
>>>>>>run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you didn't even get that right.
>>>>>
>>>>>Might be a gas stove, dumbbell.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's an electric stove.
>>>
>>>
>>>Your hands aren't all that weak then, unplugging
>>>a NEMA 10-50 or equivalent requires some strength
>>>especially considering the cord usually comes out
>>>of the plug at a right angle.
>>
>>
>> It comes out straight up from the floor. I've learned
>> how to cope with weakening hands. My problems now
>> are the arm muscles; it seems I can't pull nor push anymore.
>> So I now have get down on my hands and knees and, instead of
>> pulling up, I wriggle the thing back and forth.
>>
>> One of my projects is to find an electrician and have him a damned
>> switch on the thing.
>
>As it is an electric range you probably already have a
>separate switch at your electrical service.

Yup.

> If you
>have circuit breakers it is an easy one to switch off.

Yup. But I'd have to go down into that basement everytime
I wanted to cook and before I went to bed. You haven't seen
my basement ;-). It's easier and safer to pull the plug.

I've thought about getting a new stove but I haven't figured out
how to find one that doesn't interfere with radio.


/BAH
From: mmeron on
In article <epvcgf$8qk_014(a)s893.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes:
>In article <58776$45c259f5$4fe752c$2080(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
><snip>
>
>
>>However, nobody in the US was formally researching "making a
>>bomb" till the Manhattan project so far as I know. That there
>>were a few mathematical physicists around the world, including
>>the USA, who were toying with the possibilities isn't disputed.
>>What is fact is that it took 3 years to make the bomb once
>>anyone got serious about it.
>
>If you ever get a chance to visit Oakridge, don't forget to
>look up. I was stunned to see all the strung wire. A lot
>of it was accumulated over the years, but still, the manpower
>to put it up there was just astounding. It was one the
>beautiful moments in my life.
>
As you said, it was an incredible effort. Can't see anything like
this happening in peacetime.

Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron(a)cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> One of my projects is to find an electrician and have him a damned
> switch on the thing.

How about you contact the FCC and they'll make sure the manufacturer fixes it ?

Graham