From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <45C1F518.475EA010(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>> >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>So what. If a German comes to the UK and drives at 80MPH on the
>>> >>>motorway
>>> >>>he
>>> >>>has broken the law and the police can take action.
>>> >>
>>> >> Only in specified cases can police take action. At the moment
>>> >> I'm thinking about diplomatic immunity.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >It is interesting you say "only in specified cases." What do you think
>>> >are
>>> >the specified cases where the police *can* take action. Please list
>>> >them
>>> >all.
>>>
>>> Read the extradition treaties. I don't know if there is a word
>>> for the list of exceptions when one is working in an embassy.
>>
>>Embassies are treated as 'sovereign territory' of the host country IIRC.
>
> That happens only in countries who agree to play by those rules.

So what?

Do you have a list of all the specified cases where police can take action
against a foreign national who breaks the law?


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <45C0A285.8367FED8(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >Ken Smith wrote:
>>> >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >Those people [Pakistanis] really like our brand of capitalism. Do
>>> >> >you
>>> >> >think they want to go back to the "old ways"?
>>> >>
>>> >> Your arument seems to have turned on it heals here.
>>> >
>>> >No doubt she momentarily forgot Pakistanis are Muslims.
>>>
>>> You are wrong.
>>
>>But earlier you said Muslims reject capitalism and the business ways of
>>the
>>west.
>>
>>Which is it ?
>
> The extremists wish to eradicate all Western living styles.

Not all extremists share this wish. Some islamic inspired extremists are
quite happy for western living styles.

> This
> includes capitalism. The reason is because capitalism allows
> people to make their own choices. Islam is a religion that tells
> everybody how to live their lives, in all aspects.

Hmm. No.

> They can't even buy
> shoes unless the shoe has been approved by the clerics (I think
> those are the people who do this work).

Really? I can find no example of this being true. Can you support the claim
that Islam dictates what shoes people can wear?


From: jmfbahciv on
In article <epqdem$lk3$14(a)blue.rahul.net>,
kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>In article <epq5uj$8qk_001(a)s856.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>In article <epl3ru$6ev$9(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>[.....]
>>>>Those people really like our brand of capitalism. Do you think
>>>>they want to go back to the "old ways"?
>>>
>>>Your arument seems to have turned on it heals here.
>>
>>Not at all. These people are very good at surviving no matter
>>what the politics are. The way Muslims survive, when they
>>are in the moderate category, is to keep their mouths shut
>>and never say no to violent faction of their community.
>
>Oh good now you admit that there are moderates and exteremists.

This is more smoke and mirrors. I do not lump moderates and
extremists together; you appear to have done this by assuming
that, when I talk about extremists, I'm also talking
about moderates.

<snip>

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <45C1F5EE.19D5F4E2(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>> >> >> >> > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>Even a representative democracy needs to have some way to deal
>> >> >> >> >>with the people who go after little kids, and make other kinds
>> >> >> >> >>of messes. A democracy does not, and never has, meant that
>> >> >> >> >>all people can do anything they want without punishment.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Democracies create laws and enforce them to deal with such
issues.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Those laws apply to the citizens of that country during peace
time.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >And in wartime too.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No. You need to learn about your country's war powers and how
>> >> >> much of your peacetime freedoms were suspended during WWII.
>> >> >
>> >> >Nonsense.
>> >> >
>> >> >How about an example ?
>> >>
>> >> Food coupons.
>> >
>> >In exactly what meaningful way is that a loss of 'freedom' ?
>>
>> You could not buy what you wanted nor what you needed without
>> government permission.
>
>Permission ? The coupons could be used for many different foods btw.
>
>
>> >Rationing continued after the war btw.
>>
>> I know. That is another point of evidence that England couldn't
>> shake the socialist type of governing.
>
>It has zilch to do with socialism and everything to do with a shortage of
food
>you nitwit.

There wasn't a shortage after the war was done.


>
>Did you know that health actually improved during the period of rationing btw
?

Do those stats exclude everybody who died from bombs and bullets?

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <45C3495D.93DE0786(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> So, if it's on its own circuit, how can the stove affect the
>> wiring of the plug of the radio?
>
>You clearly don't understand how RF energy propagates. It doesn't matter
which
>circuit it's on.

Exactly. And it can't be the house wiring.

/BAH