From: T Wake on 2 Feb 2007 10:18 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:epvfsu$8qk_029(a)s893.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <45C1F518.475EA010(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>> >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>>So what. If a German comes to the UK and drives at 80MPH on the >>> >>>motorway >>> >>>he >>> >>>has broken the law and the police can take action. >>> >> >>> >> Only in specified cases can police take action. At the moment >>> >> I'm thinking about diplomatic immunity. >>> >> >>> > >>> >It is interesting you say "only in specified cases." What do you think >>> >are >>> >the specified cases where the police *can* take action. Please list >>> >them >>> >all. >>> >>> Read the extradition treaties. I don't know if there is a word >>> for the list of exceptions when one is working in an embassy. >> >>Embassies are treated as 'sovereign territory' of the host country IIRC. > > That happens only in countries who agree to play by those rules. So what? Do you have a list of all the specified cases where police can take action against a foreign national who breaks the law?
From: T Wake on 2 Feb 2007 10:20 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:epvegt$8qk_021(a)s893.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <45C0A285.8367FED8(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >Ken Smith wrote: >>> >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >Those people [Pakistanis] really like our brand of capitalism. Do >>> >> >you >>> >> >think they want to go back to the "old ways"? >>> >> >>> >> Your arument seems to have turned on it heals here. >>> > >>> >No doubt she momentarily forgot Pakistanis are Muslims. >>> >>> You are wrong. >> >>But earlier you said Muslims reject capitalism and the business ways of >>the >>west. >> >>Which is it ? > > The extremists wish to eradicate all Western living styles. Not all extremists share this wish. Some islamic inspired extremists are quite happy for western living styles. > This > includes capitalism. The reason is because capitalism allows > people to make their own choices. Islam is a religion that tells > everybody how to live their lives, in all aspects. Hmm. No. > They can't even buy > shoes unless the shoe has been approved by the clerics (I think > those are the people who do this work). Really? I can find no example of this being true. Can you support the claim that Islam dictates what shoes people can wear?
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Feb 2007 10:15 In article <epqdem$lk3$14(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >In article <epq5uj$8qk_001(a)s856.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>In article <epl3ru$6ev$9(a)blue.rahul.net>, >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >[.....] >>>>Those people really like our brand of capitalism. Do you think >>>>they want to go back to the "old ways"? >>> >>>Your arument seems to have turned on it heals here. >> >>Not at all. These people are very good at surviving no matter >>what the politics are. The way Muslims survive, when they >>are in the moderate category, is to keep their mouths shut >>and never say no to violent faction of their community. > >Oh good now you admit that there are moderates and exteremists. This is more smoke and mirrors. I do not lump moderates and extremists together; you appear to have done this by assuming that, when I talk about extremists, I'm also talking about moderates. <snip> /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Feb 2007 10:18 In article <45C1F5EE.19D5F4E2(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >> >> >> >> > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>Even a representative democracy needs to have some way to deal >> >> >> >> >>with the people who go after little kids, and make other kinds >> >> >> >> >>of messes. A democracy does not, and never has, meant that >> >> >> >> >>all people can do anything they want without punishment. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Democracies create laws and enforce them to deal with such issues. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Those laws apply to the citizens of that country during peace time. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >And in wartime too. >> >> >> >> >> >> No. You need to learn about your country's war powers and how >> >> >> much of your peacetime freedoms were suspended during WWII. >> >> > >> >> >Nonsense. >> >> > >> >> >How about an example ? >> >> >> >> Food coupons. >> > >> >In exactly what meaningful way is that a loss of 'freedom' ? >> >> You could not buy what you wanted nor what you needed without >> government permission. > >Permission ? The coupons could be used for many different foods btw. > > >> >Rationing continued after the war btw. >> >> I know. That is another point of evidence that England couldn't >> shake the socialist type of governing. > >It has zilch to do with socialism and everything to do with a shortage of food >you nitwit. There wasn't a shortage after the war was done. > >Did you know that health actually improved during the period of rationing btw ? Do those stats exclude everybody who died from bombs and bullets? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Feb 2007 10:20
In article <45C3495D.93DE0786(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> So, if it's on its own circuit, how can the stove affect the >> wiring of the plug of the radio? > >You clearly don't understand how RF energy propagates. It doesn't matter which >circuit it's on. Exactly. And it can't be the house wiring. /BAH |