From: jmfbahciv on
In article <45C1F8B1.BAB6CB77(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Pay attention to what happened in Boston yesterday; especially
>> follow what happens after this and what the critics are saying
>> and what these critics don't say. One thing you need to know
>> is that the mayor of Boston is the only politician here who
>> is taking the warnings of 9/11 seriously.
>
>Would you care to explain for us who don't live there
>what it is that happened in Boston ?

It's too long to explain. Magic incantations are: gorilla marketing,
Turner Broadcasting; the Cartoon channel and some movie about
hair (I haven't figured this one out yet); Boston temporarily
shut down.

/BAH
From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <fbc4$45c25af0$4fe752c$2080(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>>T Wake wrote:
>>
>>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:epsoo9$8qk_016(a)s807.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>>
>>>>In article <epo483$kra$1(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
>>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>>What part of "not having an atomic bomb for quite some years" do you
>>>>>not
>>>>>understand?
>>>>
>>>>The US started with no knowledge and built bombs within 3 years.
>>>>This included all of the infrastructure required.
>>>>The knowledge has been around for five decades so nobody
>>>>has to do that work.
>>>>
>>>>Why does everybody assume that countries have to take longer to
>>>>assemble a bomb?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting. Before we even begin to think about this new question, are
>>> you
>>> saying (now) that Iran has a competent industrialised system which is
>>> capable of the manufacturing required?
>>
>>
>>People are the critical factor for this. They have a good
>>number that were "made in the USA" by our universities.
>
> You will need to pay attention at the hidden assumptions
> of "european thinking" in that these peoples are uneducated
> and primitive.

Wow, that really was off the scale on my irony meter. I need a new one.

> Some days, I think this is why Europe is sitting on their
> twiddling thumbs when they're dealing with Iran's bomb making
> intentions.

Amazing. Europe is not "twiddling their thumbs."

> I always talk myself out of this thought because
> nobody could be that stupid. [You don't have to say it, Mati.]

Blimey, that was a close call for the irony meter. Nearly two with one post.


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <_dGdneNSZp2dx1_YRVnyhAA(a)pipex.net>,
> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:epsoo9$8qk_016(a)s807.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>> In article <epo483$kra$1(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>What part of "not having an atomic bomb for quite some years" do you not
>>>>understand?
>>>
>>> The US started with no knowledge and built bombs within 3 years.
>>> This included all of the infrastructure required.
>>> The knowledge has been around for five decades so nobody
>>> has to do that work.
>>>
>>> Why does everybody assume that countries have to take longer to
>>> assemble a bomb?
>>>
>>
>>Interesting. Before we even begin to think about this new question, are
>>you
>>saying (now) that Iran has a competent industrialised system which is
>>capable of the manufacturing required?
>
> I think it's a shame that they are pouring their resources into
> bomb manufacturing rather than more useful stuff. The more
> useful stuff would have a side effect of acquiring the power and
> world respect that Iran wants.
>

I am not sure how that answered the question. Do you now say Iran is capable
of acting like a fully industrialised nation and "making things?"

We can argue about how much of their resources are going where another time.


From: T Wake on

"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
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> Eeyore wrote:
>>
>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>What part of "not having an atomic bomb for quite some years" do you
>>>>>>not
>>>>>>understand?
>>>>>
>>>>>The US started with no knowledge and built bombs within 3 years.
>>>>>This included all of the infrastructure required.
>>>>>The knowledge has been around for five decades so nobody
>>>>>has to do that work.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why does everybody assume that countries have to take longer to
>>>>>assemble a bomb?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Interesting. Before we even begin to think about this new question, are
>>>>you
>>>>saying (now) that Iran has a competent industrialised system which is
>>>>capable of the manufacturing required?
>>>
>>>I think it's a shame that they are pouring their resources into
>>>bomb manufacturing rather than more useful stuff. The more
>>>useful stuff would have a side effect of acquiring the power and
>>>world respect that Iran wants.
>>
>>
>> All of which completely fails to address the question asked of you.
>
> LOL, she answered it better than you have the capacity
> to understand.

So then, did you understand her answer to be "yes" or "no?"


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <1fc$45c2793b$4fe7468$4852(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>>T Wake wrote:
>>
>>> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>>> news:51fba$45c25b43$4fe752c$2080(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
>>>
>>>>T Wake wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:epsosp$8qk_017(a)s807.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <45BF7A40.71A37BB3(a)hotmail.com>,
>>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Eeyore wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Attacking Iran would really let the genie out of the bottle.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Or contain it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It makes as much sense as attacking a wasp's nest with a heavy
>>>>>>>>>>stick.
>>>>>>>>>>In
>>>>>>>>>>front of other wasps !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'd say less. Iran will fall out of the hand of the extremists in
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>next 20 or so years if left alone. With Bush's help, they will
>>>>>>>>>maintain
>>>>>>>>>control for much longer than that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The West doesn't have 20 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Says who apart from you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anybody who can think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What part of "using an atom bomb in a few years" do you not
>>>>>>>>understand?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They don't have a bomb now nor will they have one in a 'few years'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Iran clearly wants one not for offensive use ( that would be insane )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Your assumption is 100% wrong. It will fatal to you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It is interesting that you make the same threats as fundamentalist
>>>>>extremists.
>>>>
>>>>Nope. Fundies say, "We will kill you" while BAH is saying,
>>>>"They will kill you".
>>>
>>>
>>> She is saying the beliefs of people in the west will be fatal to [us].
>>> Sounds remarkably like the fundamentalists. They even agree on who will
>>> be
>>> the instrument of the deaths.
>>
>>I don't find this unusual. She believes what they
>>say, you don't.
>>
>>> Just to be clear, on my PC her post reads "Your assumption is 100%
>>> wrong.
>>> It will fatal to you."
>>
>>> I have mentally inserted the [be] because I thought it was a given.
>>
>>> Now if she meant, "your assumption is 100% wrong, the fundamentalists
>>> will
>>> kill you" why didn't she say that?
>>
>>LOL, you're asking me?
>
> Gentlemen, it takes long and arduous work to make each sentence
> self-contained.
>
>> Part of the problem is she doesn't
>>always communicate very well while sometimes she's completely
>>clear in what she wants understood. Having lived in environments
>>of the sort she appears to have spent her life in I suppose
>>I generally understand the essentials she's trying to get across
>>based on my experiences with people much like her, sometimes
>>don't care about the specifics if I don't understand them, and
>>don't often get excited about her posts in general.
>
> I've been told that I was very lucky to work in the place
> I did. I didn't have to explain very much; genius has
> a way to figure things out without wasting a lot of time
> dotting eyes and crossing tees.
>
>>
>>In any event, she's not so "unusual" to me as she appears to be
>>to you. I suppose that sort of thing can be frustrating.
>
> Oh, TWake isn't frustrated about that.

Something we agree on.