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From: jmfbahciv on 2 Feb 2007 10:23 In article <c76aa$45c347bc$49ecf7f$10679(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> In article <a0629$45c29c9e$49ecf9f$6118(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >>>MassiveProng wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Thu, 01 Feb 07 12:46:52 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>It isn't the burners. It is the computer board in the stove that >>>>>is bad. >>>> >>>> >>>> The stove has a clock, a cooking timer, and maybe some thermal probe >>>>monitoring ports. That isn't a computer. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>If you want good AM reception, you need a good loop antenna. That >>>>>>will keep the reception constant. Otherwise you have a serious issue >>>>>>with your house wiring. >>>>> >>>>>I dismissed the wiring because no other object plugged does >>>>>this. >>>> >>>> >>>> The stove is not like ANY of the objects you describe. You have no >>>>AC powered object in the house that is wired like, or gets its power >>>>from the same branch... as the stove. It has its own SEPERATE AC >>>>run. >>>> >>>> So you didn't even get that right. >>> >>>Might be a gas stove, dumbbell. >> >> >> It's an electric stove. > > >Your hands aren't all that weak then, unplugging >a NEMA 10-50 or equivalent requires some strength >especially considering the cord usually comes out >of the plug at a right angle. It comes out straight up from the floor. I've learned how to cope with weakening hands. My problems now are the arm muscles; it seems I can't pull nor push anymore. So I now have get down on my hands and knees and, instead of pulling up, I wriggle the thing back and forth. One of my projects is to find an electrician and have him a damned switch on the thing. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Feb 2007 10:25 In article <45C34B6A.B4B1944E(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >> >> >> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> You don't need an anechoic chamber btw. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>How do you measure the EMF in "noisy" environments? >> >> >> >>Or don't you need numbers anymore? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Device off, sensors read baseline noise reading. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Device on, sensors read local differential. Extrapolations get >> >> >> >made, figures get arrived at. Task complete. >> >> >> >> >> >> Your test has a big huge unfixable flaw. >> >> > >> >> >Perhaps you'd like to elaborate on that assertion ? >> >> >> >> The device has to be unplugged to get the baseline reading. >> > >> >That's what "device off" MEANS ! >> >> No, it doesn't. > >Yes it does. > > >> >Good Lord ! How daft are you ? >> >> Not very. Now that I have finally figured out how this all >> could happened, I've ticked off another mystery. > >Have you even contemplated the thought that this stove might be defective ? It isn't considered defective by the manufacturer. I've been through all those steps. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Feb 2007 10:27 In article <epvj81$gav$5(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >In article <epvhqp$8qk_040(a)s893.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >[.....] >>According to MP, the specs say 'power off'. Power is never >>off unless not-plugged-in in these days of computer boards. > >Even before the computers stoves often had a clock and stuff like that. >Some applicances had neon glow bulbs in them. They would from time to >time decide to emit RF too. There are plans for even cereal boxes to emit them. I'm waiting for those men designers to include a clock when that happens. /BAH
From: T Wake on 2 Feb 2007 10:36 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:epveld$8qk_022(a)s893.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <45C1F65F.FC4E510A(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >We provided lots of Care Packages to "starving Europe." >>> > >>> That is how people got meat. >> >>You think the only meat in Europe came from the USA ? >> >>Your fantasies are getting ever wider and more nonsensical. >>Rabbit is very tasty lean meat btw. > > Was everybody allowed to out and shoot A rabbit for their dinner? Well, anyone who could find one could kill one and eat it. Unless they were people's pets I suppose. > That means that you all had guns. Very few English people shoot rabbits. Even ones like the welsh giants can be caught and killed more effectively. Also, as the war was on, you would be amazed how many guns were available. > I thought you were a gunless society It appears you have another preconception about WWII which needs a review. As an example, it was only the mid 1980s that automatic shotguns (SPAS-12 etc) were prohibited. There certainly are gun deaths in the UK today and it is more than possible to have a firearms certificate. >and that hunting was exclusive to royalty? Blimey. That may have been the case in the twelfth century. Can I suggest you re-assess your conclusions about British and European culture.
From: unsettled on 2 Feb 2007 10:40
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <c76aa$45c347bc$49ecf7f$10679(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>>In article <a0629$45c29c9e$49ecf9f$6118(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>MassiveProng wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Thu, 01 Feb 07 12:46:52 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>It isn't the burners. It is the computer board in the stove that >>>>>>is bad. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The stove has a clock, a cooking timer, and maybe some thermal probe >>>>>monitoring ports. That isn't a computer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>If you want good AM reception, you need a good loop antenna. That >>>>>>>will keep the reception constant. Otherwise you have a serious issue >>>>>>>with your house wiring. >>>>>> >>>>>>I dismissed the wiring because no other object plugged does >>>>>>this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The stove is not like ANY of the objects you describe. You have no >>>>>AC powered object in the house that is wired like, or gets its power >>>> >>>>>from the same branch... as the stove. It has its own SEPERATE AC >>>> >>>>>run. >>>>> >>>>> So you didn't even get that right. >>>> >>>>Might be a gas stove, dumbbell. >>> >>> >>>It's an electric stove. >> >> >>Your hands aren't all that weak then, unplugging >>a NEMA 10-50 or equivalent requires some strength >>especially considering the cord usually comes out >>of the plug at a right angle. > > > It comes out straight up from the floor. I've learned > how to cope with weakening hands. My problems now > are the arm muscles; it seems I can't pull nor push anymore. > So I now have get down on my hands and knees and, instead of > pulling up, I wriggle the thing back and forth. > > One of my projects is to find an electrician and have him a damned > switch on the thing. As it is an electric range you probably already have a separate switch at your electrical service. If you have circuit breakers it is an easy one to switch off. If you have fuses it will be the right hand big double pullout on the right side top, if you have the conventional 1950's 60 amp service installed in the usual fashion. |