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T Wake wrote:

> Planes to the US are becoming a joke now, all because of four domestic
> flights being taken over. How many flights take off each day?

Taken over ?

I don't think a single one has been 'taken over'.

Graham


From: T Wake on

"Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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>> 3000 people (not all of whom were US citizens) have been killed by
>> Islamic terrorist attacks on the Mainland US in (shall we say 80 years).
>> How many have died in car accidents in that time?
>
> The USA's Leading Causes of Death
>
> We have here the 20 leading causes of death for the population of the
> United States in 1998. These are the freshest such statistics available
> from the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.
>
> Rank Cause # of population affected
>
> #1 - Heart Disease 724,859
> #2 - Malignant Neoplasms (Cancerous Tumors) 541,532
> #3 - Cerebro-Vascular (Stroke) 158,448
> #4 - Bronchitis, Emphysema, Asthma 112,584
> #5 - Unintentional Injury 97,835 -(1)
> #6 - Pneumonia & Influenza 91,871
> #7 - Diabetes 64,751
> #8 - Suicide 30,575 -(2)
> #9 - Nephritis 26,182
> #10 - Liver Disease 25,192
> #11 - Septicemia 23,731
> #12 - Alzheimer Disease 22,725
> #13 - Homicide and Legal Intervention 18,272 -(3)
> #14 - Atherosclerosis 15,279
> #15 - Hypertension 14,308
> #16 - Perinatal Period 13,428
> #17 - HIV 13,426
> #18 - Congenital Anomalies 11,934
> #19 - Benign Neoplasms (Benign Tumors) 7,933
> #20 - Hernia 6,635
>
> 1 - 43% traffic-related
> 2 - 57% by firearm
> 3 - 66% by firearm
>
>
> In 2000, the most common actual causes of death in the United States were
> tobacco (435,000), poor diet and physical inactivity (400,000), alcohol
> consumption (85,000), microbial agents (e.g., influenza and pneumonia,
> 75,000), toxic agents (e.g., pollutants and asbestos, 55,000), motor
> vehicle accidents (43,000), firearms (29,000), sexual behavior (20,000)
> and illicit use of drugs (17,000).

I see terrorist attack doesn't make the top twenty then :-) That war on
tobacco really needs to get started soon.


From: Eeyore on


T Wake wrote:

> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote
> > T Wake wrote:
> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote
> >> > T Wake wrote:
> >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote
> >> >>
> >> >> > The insurgent isn't automatically a terrorist.
> >> >>
> >> >> It is a viewpoint issue. Were the July train bombers in London
> >> >> insurgents
> >> >> or
> >> >> terrorists?
> >> >
> >> > Definitely terrorists. Not insurgents in any organised way.
> >>
> >> But they were organised.
> >
> > An organised group of 5 ?
>
> Yes.
>
> Is there a minimum number before you can become organised?
>
> Apart from that, who recruited them? Who trained them? Who equipped them?
> Who encouraged them?

You can't conceive of the idea they did this on their own ?

Graham


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"Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>>> So you see no connection between Hitler and the holocaust?
>>>
>>
>> I see a connection but the same connection can be said about many people.
>> Your example was meant to imply that Hitler was the sole driving force
>> for the Holocaust. This is not the case.
>
> It appears to have moved Germany from desire to action.
>

Not Hitler alone and not Mein Kampf alone.


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>>>
>>> Not sure about spelling, but I've read some very well-researched serious
>>> scholarly linguistic articles that say that the British English accent
>>> at the time of the American colonies was very much closer to the current
>>> New England accent than to the current variety of British accents. It
>>> seems speech in the "colonies" was and is much more conservative than
>>> speech in the mother land. I don't remember what their evidence was,
>>> there are obviously no audio tapes to compare.
>>
>> It has the potential (and that dreaded "ring of truth") however the
>> reality is possibly very, very far from the case.
>>
>> Both sets of languages have had an equal time to "evolve" into their
>> current form. The US has been much more influenced by immigrant
>> linguistics over that period than England has, so I am inclined to doubt
>> the validity of the claim.
>>
>> I suspect both languages are equally distant from the English spoken in
>> (say) 1775.
>
> Yeah, I know, those were all *exactly* the same response I had when I
> first heard the thesis. But I do remember that the evidence was
> convincing. Dammit all, I wish I could remember where I read/saw that. I
> don't expect you to take my word for it, but to me, it really was more
> convincing than I've managed to convey.

It would be interesting to see it.

>>> Some linguists even interpret the shifts in England as related to
>>> blueblood Londoners putting on airs, and that accent subsequently
>>> catching on in other parts of the country. I suspect this last part is
>>> a bit of a stretch, but the whole thing is an interesting thesis. I
>>> find it fascinating to think about how people spoke in the past, and how
>>> language has evolved. Puts a whole new perspective in the various new
>>> inner-city lexicons and pronunciations that have developed, even in my
>>> lifetime.
>>
>> Languages evolve all the time. Welsh is a good example.
>
> Yep, that's what I find so fascinating. So, did Welsh get all the extra
> consonants that would otherwise have gone with the vowels ("u") you
> English stole? :^)
>

Yes. It is even funnier listening to their conversation because all the
modern words are in English. So you get "bable bable Television bable bable
microwave cooker bable bable" and so on.