Jihad needs scientists
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From: John Fields on 5 Oct 2006 18:53 On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 22:54:36 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >news:i0a8i2hadjh1gfqs84iur3qj96t71fevm9(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 16:29:32 -0500, John Fields >> <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 00:42:54 +0100, Eeyore >>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Homer J Simpson wrote: >>>> >>>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote >>>>> >>>>> > Alternatively you could put every mosque under armed guard and >>>>> > provide >>>>> > them with no end of support.... :-) >>>>> >>>>> Or move them all to the Outer Hebrides - and the Muslims with them! >>>> >>>>With such a wide selection to choose from, I often wonder why we have no >>>>prison islands. >>> >>>--- >>>You do. It's called Australia. >>> >>>>You could make the prisoners actually work the land and stuff. >>>>You never know, it might do them good. >>> >>>--- >>>They certainly seem to be doing better than you lot, lately. >> >> --- >> P.S. One Australian friend of mine says he'll be eternally grateful >> to you for giving them Heaven and keeping Hell for yourselves. >> > >Glad to hear it. > >They have the rough end of the deal though - the sensible ones moved to New >Zealand. --- I've never been there, but I'd like to go. Everything about it seems beautiful. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: Michael A. Terrell on 5 Oct 2006 18:58 T Wake wrote: > > Yes. > > Are you struggling with the word choice? I have no problems with it, but you seem to. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: T Wake on 5 Oct 2006 18:58 "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:oj0bi2l6gi04b0b90cemmin0apc1fu6ku1(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 22:50:02 +0100, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >> >>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in >>message >>news:qkrai2hvpp43t4lpu1ttca9tpq8ueb94qr(a)4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:03:17 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>>Which one would that be, the dangers of driving on the nation's >>>>highways? >>>>That's at least 3 orders of magnitude greater of a real threat to every >>>>person in the country than is terrorism. >>> >>> 3000 people died at the WTC. Three orders of magnitude from that is 3 >>> million. We kill about 40K people a year in car accidents. >>> >> >>3000 people (not all of whom were US citizens) have been killed by Islamic >>terrorist attacks on the Mainland US in (shall we say 80 years). How many >>have died in car accidents in that time? >> >>That said, you are nitpicking in the same manner. More than ten times as >>many people die every year as died as a result of the 11 Sep 01 attack. >>That >>is TEN attacks of that scale (and that was a large scale attack by >>anyone's >>standards) every single year. Year in, year out and accepted as a normal >>risk in life. >> > > Well, I'm an engineer. Numbers matter to me. "At least three orders of > magnitude" isn't accurate. Well even the one year left it within a tolerance of 1 order of magnitude. Quite accurate for some things. >The comparison of a single event to the > entire history of automobile use isn't vert logical either. Really? Depends I suppose. We [tinw] have had quite some time now to make car usage as safe as possible and still kill around 4x10^4 people a year. International terrorism on CONUS is a brand new threat and only kills 3x10^3 people in five years. Is that more logical? Threat is very much perception driven. People perceive a greater threat from terrorism than anything else because they have had time to acclimatise to the every day threats which kill at least 3 orders of magnitude more people (accidents, crime etc). In the UK, less than 100 people have died as the result of Islamic based terrorism (a fraction of the number who have been killed by Irish related terrorism), yet we have a constantly heightened alert state. Planes to the US are becoming a joke now, all because of four domestic flights being taken over. How many flights take off each day?
From: John Fields on 5 Oct 2006 18:56 On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:54:36 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Gordon wrote: > >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:16:58 +0100, Eeyore wrote: >> >"Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >> >> Keith wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Meanwhile, the stuffed donkey will watch the documentary about the >> >> > wild west, "Blazing Saddles". >> >> >> >> He should pay close attention to the scene where someone punches out >> >> the horse. >> > >> >Your American Love of Violence is once again nnoted. >> > >> >Do you think that violence is the only way to 'win an argument' ? >> > >> >Graham >> >> Looking down the other end of the tunnel...it seems being passive >> and compliant is a very sure way to lose an argument. Theodore >> Roosevelt had things sorted out pretty well when he said, "Speak >> softly and carry a big stick." > >And the real trick is not to use it. --- That would certainly have been to your detriment. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: Eeyore on 5 Oct 2006 18:58
John Larkin wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >John Larkin wrote: > > >> So, seriously: why do you care now? > > > >America is now threatening my way of life. > > Bizarre. How? Because of all the wars you've been pointlessly starting and you want to start more. It's horrible. There's death and destruction on the news every night. British lads are dying for America and all you do is tell us we're wrong to criticise. I can assure you that the British public is getting VERY pissed off. I was just watching 'Question Time' and there was a very anti-US feeling from the audience. Without a change of tack, I can see the North Atlantic Alliance falling apart in the next couple of years. Graham |