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From: Eeyore on 5 Oct 2006 18:47 "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > The demented donkey doesn't realize that the increase in VD is mostly > in senior citizens living in age segregated communities like "The > Villages". The rate in young ppl is on the rise too. The USA has one of the very worst records on this issue. Graham
From: T Wake on 5 Oct 2006 18:49 "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:MefVg.51669$E67.2161(a)clgrps13... > > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message > news:z8KdnXZUI_tF5rjYRVny2Q(a)pipex.net... > >>>> Nope. not good enough. If the call is suspect it can't wait a >>>> "certain number of hours". The value is gone by the time they can >>>> call a FISA judge. >>> >>> No, nice try at a strawman, but it has nothing to do with what I'm >>> saying and what is provided for in FISA. >> >> Strawman or not, the time sensitive nature of the intelligence still is >> not a strong enough argument for most cases. > > You don't seem to have any skill in comprehension whatsoever. All the FISA > court requires is that you report what you have done, not what you are > going to do. Bush doesn't want to do that because he is as crooked as > Nixon. Sorry, you seem to have directed this post at me. First off, as I am a UK citizen the FISA means less than nothing to me and interests me about as much as slugs on lettuce leaves. Secondly, and more importantly, my post says I do not care how time sensitive the intelligence is. Saying the "int is vital and needs to be actioned in the next five seconds" is ludicrous. 24 is not real. By the time a telephone number is identified as intelligence bearing there is sufficient time to get proper, advance, authority to intercept. Feel free to try and explain what you think my post said.
From: Eeyore on 5 Oct 2006 18:50 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > John Fields wrote: > > > >> Graham was pooh-poohing Gordon's claim that there's a process going > >> on to end terrorism, and I was pointing out that Graham has no clue > >> about what's being done in secret, just like most of the rest of us. > > > > You have to be mad to think "anything is going on in secret" except more > > stupidity. > > But you have no way of knowing that. > > > Why else would the USA be blundering from one failure to the next ? > > Even the best plans fail. And useless ones never stand a chance. Graham
From: T Wake on 5 Oct 2006 18:51 <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:TpfVg.8964$GR.4115(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message > news:z8KdnXZUI_tF5rjYRVny2Q(a)pipex.net... >> >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:_kdVg.8930$GR.1926(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... >>> >>> "Keith" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message >>> news:MPG.1f8ef7a64499f172989d95(a)News.Individual.NET... >> >>>> Nope. not good enough. If the call is suspect it can't wait a >>>> "certain number of hours". The value is gone by the time they can >>>> call a FISA judge. >>> >>> No, nice try at a strawman, but it has nothing to do with what I'm >>> saying and what is provided for in FISA. >> >> Strawman or not, the time sensitive nature of the intelligence still is >> not a strong enough argument for most cases. > > You better believe it is in this case. Why? What situation can the intelligence be so vital that the law enforcement agency know it is going to be said but dont have time to advance request a warrant? > However, it's provided for in FISA. Not really relevant to me, as your country feels it can intercept my communications at its leisure.
From: Eeyore on 5 Oct 2006 18:51
T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > John Fields wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> >In any case they'd have to overthrow EU and UK law first. > >> > >> --- > >> No big deal. You've never heard of martial law? > > > > Martial Law can only be imposed by a conquering army or whatever. > > Not true. Already in the UK the government have floated the idea of using > soldiers to provide police (RMP) in Garrison towns. > > The surveillance team which assisted the shooting of the Brazillian were > partly military. > > Soldiers and AFVs have deployed to Heathrow as security. I don't recall any mention of Martial Law there. Graham |