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From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 14:39 Jim Thompson wrote: > On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:24:24 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > >Jim Thompson wrote: > >> > >> I've seen very few French tourists here in AZ... probably because > >> they'd be shunned ;-) > > > > > > The ones I've met in Florida were quite rude, and about as ignorant > >as the donkey. They think we owe them a huge favor because they came > >here to harass us. :( > > When I hear them in restaurants I say something like, "Le peuple de la > France est ignorant" ;-) You 'French' is shockingly bad. Graham
From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 14:42 Jim Thompson wrote: > Since most (if not all) > Muslims won't criticize Jihad, in a war we will have to presume that > all Muslims are closet Islamic terrorists. You haven't a clue what Jihad really means. If you understood........... " Jihad, sometimes spelled Jahad, Jehad, Jihaad, Djehad or Cihad, (Arabic: ????? ?ih?d) is an Islamic term, from the Arabic root ?hd ("to exert utmost effort, to strive, struggle"), which connotes a wide range of meanings: anything from an inward spiritual struggle to attain perfect faith to a political or military struggle " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad Graham
From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 14:44 Homer J Simpson wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:4520C2BD.B2E1DB4F(a)hotmail.com... > > > All religions seem to have these issues. In Christianity we have the > > conflict > > between the values of the Old and New Testaments for example. It's my > > understanding that a similar situation arises in Islam between the early ( > > almost liberal ) and late ( reactionary ) teachings of Mohammed. > > Isn't the biggest problem the fact that Mohammed was illiterate and wrote no > books? > > Quote: > ======================================== > Since Muhammad and his several hundred companions were completely illiterate > (could not read or write) and Muhammad had a poor memory; thus, his > companions memorized for him the Quranic verses they plagiarized/concocted. > But in the battle of Yamamah, almost all his companions were killed and the > original Quranic verses were lost forever and was never compiled in writing > before Muhammad himself was killed by food poisoning in 632 A.D. by a Jewish > slave, who said, "If you are a true Apostle, Allah would have saved you". > Caliph Abu Bakr (632-634A.D.) then entrusted Zayed Ibn Thabit to compile the > Quran, from memories of Muhammad's illiterate wives, concubines, slaves, and > a few contacts; who claimed to have heard Muhammad and his companions utter > various verses. Zayed managed to gather an estimated 7,900 verses. But this > first compilation of the Quran, with numerous contradictions, ridicule, > confusions, and errors, created a lot of trouble and huge problems arose > over the years. Under the caliphate of Uthman (644-656 A.D.), he was > compelled to withdraw all the distributed, handwritten copies of the Qurans > and burnt them. Zayed was again ordered for the second time, to recompile > and re-edit the Quran more sensibly and convincingly from his original > Quran, kept with Hafsa (Muhammad's widow). Zayed did the best he could in > re-editing the Quran and more than 2,000 contradictory, confusing, erroneous > and illogical verses were abrogated (cancelled), some were replaced, and > others added/borrowed to make sense of the cancellations/replacements. > ======================================== > I don't know the truth of this but if true it explains a lot. It would seem > that these Caliphs were like Saul of Tarsus in that they virtually > re-invented the religion. Intriguing. Graham
From: John Fields on 2 Oct 2006 14:47 On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:11:54 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > >> In article <4520C55D.7B2F988C(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: >> >> >You need to do some reading. OBL for example. >> >> I'm doing my reading. It is your reading that appears quite >> superficial. Try following memri.org for a while, and that's just for >> starters. > >I see they mention the Muslim Brotherhood. They're the ppl you really should be scared about. Not Islam >generally. --- Probably _you_ should be afraid. I don't think they've forgotten the Crusades yet. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: lucasea on 2 Oct 2006 14:47
"Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:xWcUg.7304$N4.1073(a)clgrps12... > > "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message > news:a4j2i21n96u8g2joe6mti04hnacnt0p8uf(a)4ax.com... > >> LOL, with all that anti-American bile surging through your system, >> "Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much." :-O > > Yes, it's a well known fact that racism has been entirely eliminated from > all of US society. Why even the notion of it is completely foreign to all > residents of that land. > > 3 whites indicted in dragging death of black man in Texas > > July 6, 1998 > > JASPER, Texas (CNN) -- Three white men were indicted Monday on capital > murder charges in the death of a black man who was chained to a pickup > truck and dragged to his death on a rural East Texas road in early June. Oh, come on, you know perfectly well that one anecdote (8 years old, no less) does not a "trait" make. However, this anecdote is useless. A white woman was recently (in the past month) dragged to death behind a pickup truck, too. By your logic, US society hates all whites and all women as well. I'm not saying that racism doesn't exist in the US--*of course* it does, nobody has claimed it hasn't. It has improved since the 60s, but not as much as it should. The problem is labelling. Once you label a large group of people, and begin to talk about members of that group as if they were only the label you've given them ("All blacks are...", "All whites are...", "All Americans are...", "All Europeans are...", "All Muslims are...") then you cease any intelligent discussion on any issues related to those people, and nothing but bickering ensues. Some Americans do it, but I've also noticed a large fraction of the American *and* non-American participants in this thread do it as well. But then, I guess the way that some people go out of their way to pick a fight rather than discuss issues without threats and name-calling, it shouldn't surprise me. Eric Lucas |