From: John Larkin on
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:08:56 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>John Larkin wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:09:14 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
>> >"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
>> >> Jim Thompson wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > That's where we pretend we like the French ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Sorry, Jim, but I'm not THAT good at playing pretend.
>> >
>> >Don't worry. The French don't much like your kind of Americans either.
>> >
>> >Graham
>>
>> Heck, you can hardly get into a roadside rest area bathroom for the
>> crowds from the French tour busses. On our way back from Monterey, my
>> wife had to sit shivering at the Junipera Serra rest stop for that
>> very reason, waiting out a bus full of female French tourists. If you
>> go to the top of Twin Peaks in San Francisco, the language you're most
>> likely to overhear is German.
>>
>> Stay home! The lines at Peet's Coffee and Joseph Schmidt Chocolate are
>> long enough already.
>
>The attraction of the falling dollar and rising Euro of course.
>
>Graham

The rooms at the Inn at Spanish Bay start at about $550, and europeans
are a glut there, too. But you can sit on the deck, overlooking the
ocean, next to a cozy open-air firepit, sipping a Guinness, and the
burger and fries are excellent. If you get chilly, they'll bring you
blankets. Golf is an insane activity, but golf resorts are almost
always a great place to stay.

John


From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:00:32 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
> >John Larkin wrote:
> >>
> >> I read about a recent experiment that was done in the UK. In response
> >> to advertised job openings, good but fake resumes were invented and
> >> sent in, with the only difference that some had English-sounding names
> >> and some had Muslim-sounding names. The response ratio was about 5:1.
> >
> >I suspect this is another urban myth actually. A similar thing was *really*
> >done with different ages in fact.
>
> It's in here...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Muslim#Islamophobia_in_Europe

" he asks whether Muslims will be the victims of the next pogroms "

See my post on this point.

That's why I laugh when American try lecturing us about being blind to the danger
from Islam. Do you guys seriously think we'd ever let them get the upper hand ?

Graham

From: T Wake on

<mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <4520C734.BF44F5D0(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes:
>>
>>There is no such thing as a coherent 'Islamic terrorist' movement, much as
>>the
>>USA would like to have you
>>believe it. Much Islamic terrorism isn't even targeted at the West.
>>
> There wasn't such thing as a coherent "Axis" in 1939-40.

So what? WWII wasn't fought against a coherent Axis.

> There were
> three separate nations, pursuing separate goals, often in
> non-coordinated fashion,

Well, this explains why America refused to get involved until their
interests were threatened.

All you are doing is re-iterating irrelevant global politics.

> at times even in a way which was detrimental
> to the other Axis members goals.
> Mussolini's invasion of Greece was
> not coordinated with Hitler, in fact Hitler wasn't informed at all,

So what? Are you trying to imply that given time all the nations of the
middle east will form into a super power and invade Poland?

> and the fact that Germany had to bail Mussolini out over there put a
> few weeks delay in the preparations for Barbarossa (few weeks which
> turned quite crucial). Similarly (and on a bigger scale) neither
> Germany nor Italy were informed of Japan's plans to hit Pearl Harbor
> and move southward into the Pacific, a move which enabled the USSR, at
> a critical moment, to transfer tens of first class divisions from
> Eastern Siberia to the Moscow front and successfully repel the German
> attack over there.
>
> So, no, there was nothing like a unified "Axis command" in place.
> What was there, was a common mindset, one which viewed the existing
> world order as weak and ripe for being overturned, and which
> sanctioned the use of all available means in order to achieve this
> goal. That's all.

So what?

> You should study some history. Your blip about Chamberlain was most
> entertaining.

You need to stop watching the History Channels repeats and inject some
relevance.

The scariest analogies to WWII are the state of Germany in the 1930s. A
despotic leader re-affirmed public support in his otherwise crackpot
government by creating a "bugbear" enemy out of a religious group. The same
despot undermined and ignore the League of Nations because he felt his
country was "glorious and powerful" enough to not have to listen to other
countries.

Using the second world war as an analogy for the steps taken to dismantle
the Islamic terrorist threat to the west is pretty off the wall.


From: lucasea on

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:45205916.9EE8E163(a)hotmail.com...
>>
>>
>> T Wake wrote:
>>
>>> <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
>>>
>>> > I'll say again, it is a war, refusing to recognize it as such will not
>>> > make it go away.
>>>
>>> I disagree. It is not a war. This is not a case of "refusing to
>>> recognise it
>>> as such." Wars are wars. Soldiers are notoriously bad at fighting
>>> terrorism.
>>> Terrorists are criminals.
>>
>> Indeed. And no War on Crime has ever been won.
>
> Heading down the road of philosophical arguments now, but would it be
> possible to "win" a war on crime?

Yep, all it takes is a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and you too can
declare victory in your favorite war on x...and here's the best
part...without actually having to accomplish anything.

Eric Lucas


From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:06:00 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
>
> >> How much do you personally donate to things like this?
> >
> >I don't have to account for it thank you and I certainly don't have the kind of income
> >that would allow me to donate anything like you do. We do however have a government
> >that does it on our behalf, not to mention the likes of Oxfam etc... in the 'voluntary
> >sector' who are normally very fast off the mark when need is high.
> >
> >Graham
>
> In other words, nothing. In Texas, people like you are called "all hat
> and no horse."

It's none of your business.

Unlike some who like to look the other way when a collecting tin comes round, I don't
though.

Graham