From: John Fields on
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:32:11 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>Gordon wrote:
>
>> This is sad and very unfortunate. The thing we must ask ourselves
>> is, had I been one of the cops would/should I have waited for the
>> suspect to pull what ever he had in his pocket out and just hope
>> it wasn't a gun?
>>
>> I should think there was a language barrier, and the suspect
>> didn't understand what the cops were trying to tell him to do and
>> the cops didn't understand the suspect's replies to their
>> commands. The cops probably thought he was going for a gun, and
>> weren't willing to just wait and see if he started shooting.
>
>This is a problem in a country where gun ownership is so widespread of course.

---
Less of a problem than in the UK where if the perp had a gun and the
cops didn't _they'd_ probably be dead.



--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: Eeyore on


John Fields wrote:

> I think they're talking about buggery, Graham.

Such huge intellects work in strange ways.

Graham

From: lucasea on

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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> We have our rude cities... NYC and Boston come to mind, though Boston
> has gotten much better in recent years.

When I was in grad school in the late 80s, I struck up an unusual friendship
with my 80-year old crusty born-and-bred Bostonian landlord. He once
confided in me that, when he was younger, Boston was a much more pleasant
city to live and especially drive in. His take was that their economic
success in the 60s - 80s lead to a large influx of non-Bostonians. I have
experienced this before, and it does tend to make a place much less
friendly, since the populace has fewer emotional ties to the area, and thus
less interest in making it a pleasant place to be. That, and maybe the
Boston press have finally gotten that chip off their shoulder about "The
Curse".... :^)


> I've often pondered if
> rudeness is inversely correlated with personal economic health.

Maybe, but I've spent lots of time in several large US cities, and San
Francisco and San Diego are both among the wealthiest and also among the
friendliest.

Eric Lucas





From: Eeyore on


John Fields wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:32:11 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
> >Gordon wrote:
> >
> >> This is sad and very unfortunate. The thing we must ask ourselves
> >> is, had I been one of the cops would/should I have waited for the
> >> suspect to pull what ever he had in his pocket out and just hope
> >> it wasn't a gun?
> >>
> >> I should think there was a language barrier, and the suspect
> >> didn't understand what the cops were trying to tell him to do and
> >> the cops didn't understand the suspect's replies to their
> >> commands. The cops probably thought he was going for a gun, and
> >> weren't willing to just wait and see if he started shooting.
> >
> >This is a problem in a country where gun ownership is so widespread of course.
>
> ---
> Less of a problem than in the UK where if the perp had a gun and the
> cops didn't _they'd_ probably be dead.

Your fondness for killing is noted.

Graham

From: Gordon on
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:29:55 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:21:19 -0700, John Larkin
><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:56:34 +0100, "T Wake"
>><usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:45214B1B.7A9DD9AD(a)earthlink.net...
>>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've seen very few French tourists here in AZ... probably because
>>>>> they'd be shunned ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The ones I've met in Florida were quite rude, and about as ignorant
>>>> as the donkey. They think we owe them a huge favor because they came
>>>> here to harass us. :(
>>>
>>>All French people are rude. That is why no one likes them. Even the French
>>>don't like themselves.
>>>
>>
>>I drove around France for six weeks once. The people in cities were
>>often rude,
>
>Absolutely! Probably from breathing the sewage stench constantly ;-)
>
>>and the people in small towns and in the countryside were
>>almost always cheerful and friendly.
>
>Absolutely! I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between rural
>France and rural WV except for the road signs.
>
>>In the US, I find city and
>>country people mostly friendly, without a big difference.
>>
>>I think the rudest place I've been was Moscow... glories of Socialism
>>and all that.
>>
>>John
>
>We have our rude cities... NYC and Boston come to mind, though Boston
>has gotten much better in recent years. I've often pondered if
>rudeness is inversely correlated with personal economic health.
>
> ...Jim Thompson
>
Jim, I lived "back east" for a while, some years back. I can
vouch for the snooty attitude of the people up the eastern
seaboard. In NYC I always felt this was because no one trusted
anyone else, no matter where you came from.

In Boston it seems the locals regard anyone from another location
as the outfall of that riffraff that followed Horace Greeley's
call to "go west, young man, go west." They think the better ones
remained steadfast and the lower class people drifted on west,
and when any of their descendants return they are to be looked
down upon.

There was a rather funny story in circulation during those times.
It seems there was a funeral for a 92 year old fellow named
Howard. The preacher was eulogizing Howard and talked about how
Howard's parents came to this town when Howard was just a babe.
Howard's parents bought a general store down on 2nd street and
operated it until they retired.

Howard grew up and went to a local school then married a local
girl and took over his parents store when they retired. Howard
raised a son who took over the store when Howard retired. Except
for the first few months, Howard had lived all his 92+ years in
this town.

The preacher finished the eulogy, saying, "It's almost like
Howard was one of us."

Gordon