From: Jim Thompson on 2 Oct 2006 12:16 On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 08:58:50 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:00:32 +0100, Eeyore ><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>John Larkin wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 08:47:23 +0100, Eeyore wrote: >>> >John Larkin wrote: >>> >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 02:33:19 +0100, Eeyore wrote: >>> >> >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> The US is not demonizing Islam, at this point. It makes the >>> >> >> distinction between Islam and Islamic extremism. >>> >> > >>> >> >I can assure you that many Americans don't understand the difference. >>> >> >>> >> How many is "many"? Seven? If "many" means "a significant fraction", >>> >> then you are, as usual, inventing anti-American "facts." >>> > >>> >The majority who post on Usenet for sure ! >>> > >>> >It seems to me that the US War on Terror has simply created a new kind of >>> >hostile racism or culture'ism of a sort. >>> > >>> >Graham >>> >>> I read about a recent experiment that was done in the UK. In response >>> to advertised job openings, good but fake resumes were invented and >>> sent in, with the only difference that some had English-sounding names >>> and some had Muslim-sounding names. The response ratio was about 5:1. >> >>I suspect this is another urban myth actually. A similar thing was *really* >>done with different ages in fact. > > >It's in here... > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Muslim#Islamophobia_in_Europe > >John > Yep. However I wouldn't hang my hat on anything CAIR has to offer. Around here they spout all kinds of hate, refuse to say anything negative about extremism, nor be interviewed by the media. My feeling is that if American Muslims can't/won't be outspoken against their extremist brothers, in an out-and-out world blow-up they'll be rounded up into camps just like the Japanese-Americans in WWII... deservedly... "silence implies consent" (Sir Thomas More). ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Gordon on 2 Oct 2006 12:20 On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 04:01:20 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > >"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message >news:9c11i2dvshqagolpbfneulpfegh53tpgiv(a)4ax.com... > >>>I seem to recall references to "Shock and Awe". Doesn't sound like the >>>cops >>>to me - unless it's the nutjob US cops who shoot everything in sight. > >> Very select things actually. > >Police shoot at unarmed man 41 times > >An investigation has been launched into why four New York police officers >fired 41 shots at an unarmed man with no criminal record. >Amadou "Ahmed" Diallo, 22, died after he was hit at least 19 times as he >entered his Bronx apartment building. The bullets pierced him in every major >organ including his heart, lungs and liver. >"It looks like one guy may have panicked and the rest followed suit," a >police official told The New York Times on Friday. >Friends said Mr Diallo emigrated from Guinea-Bissau after fleeing civil >strife in Mauritania in 1997. He worked 12 hours a day as a peddler, sending >much of his earnings back to his parents. >As he returned home on Thursday, four undercover police officers >investigating a recent shooting of a cab driver approached him and >identified themselves. >Police sources said Mr Diallo reached into his pocket and the officers, who >are all white, thought he was going for a gun. >Mr Diallo died at the scene. A beeper and wallet were all that were found >beside his bullet-riddled body. >"The police told me it was a mistake," Mr Diallo's roommate, Momodou Kujabi, >told the press. >The officers, three of whom have shot civilians in the past, were all police >veterans with five years or more on the force. > This is sad and very unfortunate. The thing we must ask ourselves is, had I been one of the cops would/should I have waited for the suspect to pull what ever he had in his pocket out and just hope it wasn't a gun? I should think there was a language barrier, and the suspect didn't understand what the cops were trying to tell him to do and the cops didn't understand the suspect's replies to their commands. The cops probably thought he was going for a gun, and weren't willing to just wait and see if he started shooting. Gordon
From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 12:22 T Wake wrote: > <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote > > In article <45205B23.8190A32(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyorewrites: > >>mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > >> > >>> The Islamic terrorists aim at destruction of the western society > >> > >>Where did you get that idea ? > >> > > From their own writings. Try to keep informed. > > Which writings are they? > > Which Islamic Terrorist movement are you referring to? Or do you lump them > all in as one? Are you able to see the difference between terrorist > organisations? > > Is the "war" on terror a war against all terrorist organisations or just the > Islamic ones which have targeted the US? Sssshhhh. You shouldn't ask tricky questions like that ! Obviously it's a 'war' on the terrorists 'we' disapprove of. We'll call the other ones guerillas. That sounds alright doesn't it ? Graham
From: lucasea on 2 Oct 2006 12:21 "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:hrd2i2poggeqcjmqe03i24fclgma2p9gur(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:06:00 +0100, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> >>> How much do you personally donate to things like this? >> >>I don't have to account for it thank you and I certainly don't have the >>kind of income >>that would allow me to donate anything like you do. We do however have a >>government >>that does it on our behalf, not to mention the likes of Oxfam etc... in >>the 'voluntary >>sector' who are normally very fast off the mark when need is high. > > In other words, nothing. In Texas, people like you are called "all hat > and no horse." You might want to remember that private monetary matters are just that--private. Just because you chose to parade yours around in public just to show how big your genitalia are, doesn't mean that anybody else is obligated to. I guess Texans don't have any manners as regards the privacy of private matters. Eric Lucas
From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 12:25
lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message > > > > Heading down the road of philosophical arguments now, but would it be > > possible to "win" a war on crime? > > Yep, all it takes is a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and you too can > declare victory in your favorite war on x...and here's the best > part...without actually having to accomplish anything. There's already been one of those and I don't think the public were fooled for long. Graham |