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From: mmeron on 2 Oct 2006 17:36 In article <hic2i21fvgepp2vot8qgntktud1r5bu5gf(a)4ax.com>, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> writes: >On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:37:29 GMT, mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > >>In article <4520DB95.FA98E674(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: >>> >>> >>>mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: >>> >>>> In article <4520D844.DCF01BAD(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore writes: >>>> >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: >>>> >>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: >>>> >> >>>> >> >There is no such thing as a coherent 'Islamic terrorist' movement, much as the USA would like to >> >have >>>> you believe it. Much Islamic terrorism isn't even targeted at the West. >>>> >> >>>> >> There wasn't such thing as a coherent "Axis" in 1939-40. There were >>>> >> three separate nations, pursuing separate goals, often in >>>> >> non-coordinated fashion, at times even in a way which was detrimental >>>> >> to the other Axis members goals. >>>> > >>>> >Your fixation with the history of WW2 is idiotic. >>>> >>>> I'll take this for a tacit admition that you've no better answer. >>> >>>The history of WW2 has nothing useful to offer in the current context. In fact it's wholly misleading to use it as >>>any kind of template. >>> >>Aha. And this is based on, well, on your say so. Well, since I >>already determined to my satisfaction what you're, don't expect me to >>put to much of a weight on you opinions. >> >>Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool, >>meron(a)cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same" > > > >Graham has a pathological and mostly irrational hatred of America, and >makes up things to support that need. So naturally he doesn't like to >be reminded about stuff like WWII or the Cold War. He believes that >the UK and Russia defeated Germany with little need for US assistance. > YEah, he appears to be mostly a waste of time (since this is sci.phys, I should probably say "waste of spacetime") Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool, meron(a)cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
From: lucasea on 2 Oct 2006 17:36 "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:bhfUg.7790$N4.367(a)clgrps12... > > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:GreUg.962$NE6.715(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com... > >> Yes, and what details were left of out the other anecdote that hide the >> "whole story"? Once you start to see the actual details, you can >> understand rather than simply label and refuse to understand. I'm not >> saying the other incident wasn't a case of racism, it may well have >> been...I'm just saying that the anecdote, as written, did not "prove" >> that racism is rampant in the US, as the poster appeared to intend. > > List some other countries where a man of one race was murdered men of > another by being dragged to death behind a truck. If I can get you to stop focusing on the race of the participants (doesn't that make *you* the racist?), I'll ask the same question back at you in a race-neutral fashion. List some other coutnries where a man was murdered by being dragged to death behind a truck. Eric Lucas
From: Jim Thompson on 2 Oct 2006 17:38 On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:25:06 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >message news:cct2i212ak2vq714ussr88s3f1tb2kram9(a)4ax.com... > >> We have our rude cities... NYC and Boston come to mind, though Boston >> has gotten much better in recent years. > >When I was in grad school in the late 80s, I struck up an unusual friendship >with my 80-year old crusty born-and-bred Bostonian landlord. He once >confided in me that, when he was younger, Boston was a much more pleasant >city to live and especially drive in. His take was that their economic >success in the 60s - 80s lead to a large influx of non-Bostonians. I have >experienced this before, and it does tend to make a place much less >friendly, since the populace has fewer emotional ties to the area, and thus >less interest in making it a pleasant place to be. That, and maybe the >Boston press have finally gotten that chip off their shoulder about "The >Curse".... :^) > > >> I've often pondered if >> rudeness is inversely correlated with personal economic health. > >Maybe, but I've spent lots of time in several large US cities, and San >Francisco and San Diego are both among the wealthiest and also among the >friendliest. > >Eric Lucas > You prove my theory... "_inversely_ correlated": high income => low rudeness ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Jim Thompson on 2 Oct 2006 17:45 On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:27:48 GMT, Gordon <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote: >On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:29:55 -0700, Jim Thompson ><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > >>On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:21:19 -0700, John Larkin >><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> [snip] >>> >>>I drove around France for six weeks once. The people in cities were >>>often rude, >> >>Absolutely! Probably from breathing the sewage stench constantly ;-) >> >>>and the people in small towns and in the countryside were >>>almost always cheerful and friendly. >> >>Absolutely! I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between rural >>France and rural WV except for the road signs. >> >>>In the US, I find city and >>>country people mostly friendly, without a big difference. >>> >>>I think the rudest place I've been was Moscow... glories of Socialism >>>and all that. >>> >>>John >> >>We have our rude cities... NYC and Boston come to mind, though Boston >>has gotten much better in recent years. I've often pondered if >>rudeness is inversely correlated with personal economic health. >> >> ...Jim Thompson >> >Jim, I lived "back east" for a while, some years back. I can >vouch for the snooty attitude of the people up the eastern >seaboard. In NYC I always felt this was because no one trusted >anyone else, no matter where you came from. > >In Boston it seems the locals regard anyone from another location >as the outfall of that riffraff that followed Horace Greeley's >call to "go west, young man, go west." When I announced, in 1962, that I had taken a position at Motorola in Phoenix, AZ, a professor at MIT (who shall remain nameless) asked me if I was making the right choice, "...after all, there are Indians out there" ;-) >They think the better ones >remained steadfast and the lower class people drifted on west, >and when any of their descendants return they are to be looked >down upon. Interesting theory. > >There was a rather funny story in circulation during those times. >It seems there was a funeral for a 92 year old fellow named >Howard. The preacher was eulogizing Howard and talked about how >Howard's parents came to this town when Howard was just a babe. >Howard's parents bought a general store down on 2nd street and >operated it until they retired. > >Howard grew up and went to a local school then married a local >girl and took over his parents store when they retired. Howard >raised a son who took over the store when Howard retired. Except >for the first few months, Howard had lived all his 92+ years in >this town. > >The preacher finished the eulogy, saying, "It's almost like >Howard was one of us." > >Gordon Sounds about right ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: lucasea on 2 Oct 2006 17:48
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message news:qi13i2h1if9jgqkpidmdk6ron9v06o9u6j(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:25:06 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> >>"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >>message news:cct2i212ak2vq714ussr88s3f1tb2kram9(a)4ax.com... >> >>> We have our rude cities... NYC and Boston come to mind, though Boston >>> has gotten much better in recent years. >> >>When I was in grad school in the late 80s, I struck up an unusual >>friendship >>with my 80-year old crusty born-and-bred Bostonian landlord. He once >>confided in me that, when he was younger, Boston was a much more pleasant >>city to live and especially drive in. His take was that their economic >>success in the 60s - 80s lead to a large influx of non-Bostonians. I have >>experienced this before, and it does tend to make a place much less >>friendly, since the populace has fewer emotional ties to the area, and >>thus >>less interest in making it a pleasant place to be. That, and maybe the >>Boston press have finally gotten that chip off their shoulder about "The >>Curse".... :^) >> >> >>> I've often pondered if >>> rudeness is inversely correlated with personal economic health. >> >>Maybe, but I've spent lots of time in several large US cities, and San >>Francisco and San Diego are both among the wealthiest and also among the >>friendliest. >> >>Eric Lucas >> > > You prove my theory... "_inversely_ correlated": high income => low > rudeness ;-) Oops, I didn't read carefully enough. I thought you were explaining why New York, Boston, Chicago, northern New Jersey (it's essentially all one big city) and LA were such awful places, since they're all very rich cities. They are certainly counterexamples of your theory, as read correctly. In any case, I think there are many major cities in all four of the high/low income/rudeness quadrants. Eric Lucas |