From: Homer J Simpson on 2 Oct 2006 19:38 "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:no33i2566o90atlu6iu6dnvkmiufdfcv0c(a)4ax.com... > You think they are guilty of criminal acts because they do not > publicly condemn Muslim terrorism? That's a novel interpretation of > law. Can we find you guilty of not condemming, well, everything that's > illegal? Better start condemming... you have a lot of catching up to > do. Isn't that now US law? If you fail to tell about a crime, even if you don't know anything, you are guilty of something. If you fail to confess, even if you believe you are not guilty, you are now guilty of that. More and more like the Soviets every day!
From: Homer J Simpson on 2 Oct 2006 19:38 "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:hu33i2tqjfg6nfvg8d5o1krhaq0lr1umhi(a)4ax.com... > The issue is whether non-US-citizens have Constitutional rights when > they are not physically in the USA, or whether US citizens have such > rights when captured in a foreign country while fighting against our > military. The US believes that US law applies everywhere in the world, but US constitutional rights don't apply to anyone who isn't the 'right sort of person'.
From: John Fields on 2 Oct 2006 19:41 On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:59:42 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >news:3kh2i2p1qoa888afm2l1ksq3j2qcvcfvrl(a)4ax.com... >> --- >> So what? With world domonation as its goal, one would expect it >> would strike world-wide, as the opportunity arose. > > >Whose goal? "It" isn't really appropriate to define the long term aims of a >disparate group of organisations. Are "they" trying to dominate the world or >destroy western society or convert every one or... --- "It" being radical Islam, the goal, in my opinion, would be to convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam. Refusal to convert would result in death. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Larkin on 2 Oct 2006 19:39 On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 23:53:26 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:43:57 +0100, Eeyore wrote: >> >John Larkin wrote: >> >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:41:22 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: >> >> >> >> >I repeat, "silence implies consent". >> >> >> >> Of course it doesn't, but "consent" remains legal anyhow. >> >> >> >> There are millions of Muslims in this country, citizens and legal >> >> residents, and their rate of participation in terrorism is within the >> >> engineering definition of zero. >> > >> >Silence was once legal under the law AIUI. I guess that's the reason for >> >those secret prisions and extraordinary rendition..... to get round those >> >awkward legal niceties. >> > >> >Graham >> >> The issue is whether non-US-citizens have Constitutional rights when >> they are not physically in the USA, or whether US citizens have such >> rights when captured in a foreign country while fighting against our >> military. > >A decently civilised country wouldn't have any 'issue' with sorting that one >out. > A decently civilized country has to have a constitution before this becomes a problem. John
From: John Fields on 2 Oct 2006 19:43
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:01:40 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Fields wrote: > >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:11:54 +0100, Eeyore wrote: >> >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: >> >> In article <4520C55D.7B2F988C(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore writes: >> >> >> >> >You need to do some reading. OBL for example. >> >> >> >> I'm doing my reading. It is your reading that appears quite >> >> superficial. Try following memri.org for a while, and that's just for >> >> starters. >> > >> >I see they mention the Muslim Brotherhood. They're the ppl you really should be scared about. Not >Islam >> generally. >> >> --- >> Probably _you_ should be afraid. I don't think they've forgotten >> the Crusades yet. > >Afraid of what exactly ? --- Convert or die. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |