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From: mmeron on 2 Oct 2006 20:05 In article <v673i2dusng3t5a82qt9hm7n8ve5p4t7ua(a)4ax.com>, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes: >On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:59:42 +0100, "T Wake" ><usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >> >>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >>news:3kh2i2p1qoa888afm2l1ksq3j2qcvcfvrl(a)4ax.com... >>> --- >>> So what? With world domonation as its goal, one would expect it >>> would strike world-wide, as the opportunity arose. >> >> >>Whose goal? "It" isn't really appropriate to define the long term aims of a >>disparate group of organisations. Are "they" trying to dominate the world or >>destroy western society or convert every one or... > >--- >"It" being radical Islam, the goal, in my opinion, would be to >convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by >Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam. > >Refusal to convert would result in death. > No, not quite. True about the part of world domination, not about the other one. Islam recognizes two categories of non-believers. One is "polytheists" for whom, indeed, the accepted options are conversion or death. The other is "Um al_Kitab", meaning "Nations of the Book", which includes Christians and Jews. These may be allowed to live without converting but only as "dhimmi" (you may check on this term). Meaning, second class subjects, possessing the (limited) rights granted them by their Muslim rulers, with the stipulation that said rights may be withdrawn at the whim of the rulers. Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool, meron(a)cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
From: lucasea on 2 Oct 2006 20:20 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:452198F0.A71D16AC(a)hotmail.com... > > > John Fields wrote: > >> You miss no opportunity to lambaste the US, its population, its >> government, its institutions, and you hate its very existence, so >> what do you expect me to think, that you're a benevolent soul trying >> to help with constructive criticism? > > I thought it was fine under Clinton ! Yes, but you see, if he denigrates your point of view by labelling you as someone that could never say anything good about the US, then he doesn't have to take your point of view seriously and try to understand that perhaps it might even be a valid point of view, that an intelligent person may be capable of coming to through independent thought. It's the same thing the Bush administration does by labelling everyone that disagrees with it a "traitor" (under the *extremely* liberal interpretations that disagreeing with your government is tantamount to aiding the enemy.) What they seem to fail to understand is that the Constitution gives every US citizen is given the *responsibility* to question its government *every single* day of their lives. It really is sad that the Bush administration has seen fit to legitimize this sort of anti-American behavior. Eric Lucas
From: Gordon on 2 Oct 2006 20:28 On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:47:08 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Fields wrote: > >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:59:42 +0100, "T Wake" wrote: >> >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> So what? With world domonation as its goal, one would expect it >> >> would strike world-wide, as the opportunity arose. >> > >> > >> >Whose goal? "It" isn't really appropriate to define the long term aims of a >> >disparate group of organisations. Are "they" trying to dominate the world or >> >destroy western society or convert every one or... >> >> --- >> "It" being radical Islam, the goal, in my opinion, would be to >> convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by >> Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam. >> >> Refusal to convert would result in death. > >Do you often conjure up such idiotic ideas out of thin air ? > >Graham > Graham, what John said is straight out of their Koran. Repeated in many Surah, Ayah passages. For example; -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surah 47, Ayah 4 When ye encounter the infidels, strike of their heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the rest make fast the fetters. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the record, an infidel is anyone who is not a recognized Muslim in good standing. A Muslim who turns away from the Muslim religion is an infidel. Any person who belongs to and acknowledges belonging to any other religion is an infidel. Gordon
From: John Fields on 2 Oct 2006 20:33 On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:29:55 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:21:19 -0700, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>and the people in small towns and in the countryside were >>almost always cheerful and friendly. > >Absolutely! I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between rural >France and rural WV except for the road signs. --- They speak French in rural WV? ;) -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: John Fields on 2 Oct 2006 20:37
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:41:24 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >T Wake wrote: > >> "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >> >> > Good to see you Nederlanders are doing so well ;-) >> >> I assume I have just missed the joke here. Is this going to be used in your >> act? > >He has a thing about them. To him it's simply an insult to call someone a >Netherlander. He doesn't approve of their 'liberal' thinking. --- Why don't you let Jim speak for himself? Didn't your mother teach you anything but _bad_ manners? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |