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From: Jamie on 16 Oct 2006 15:21 John Larkin wrote: > On Mon, 16 Oct 06 10:03:33 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >>In article <2925j2dlsd2jau4crqchld5e7filit9481(a)4ax.com>, >> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:51:15 +0100, Eeyore >>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>You had an implication that they are not as dangerous with a crude >>>>>>bomb than with a sophisticated bomb. >>>>> >>>>>Well, the fact is, they probably aren't. Their weapons are probably >> >>fairly >> >>>>>crude, and their delivery systems are probably extremely crude and may >> >>have >> >>>>>to rely on something decidedly low-tech, like sailing it into New York >>>>>harbor on a 35' yacht out of Cuba or some small, under-the-radar Caribbean >>>>>island. This would still be very dangerous, don't get me wrong. However, >>>>>it's inarguably more dangerous to deliver a sophisticated >>>>>fission-fusion-fission device by a ground-launched missile from their own >>>>>country. >>>> >>>>You'd have to conceive of a situation where N Korea could benefit from such >>>>action for it to make sense though. >>>> >>>>Since the likely result would be 'wiping N Korea off the map' it really >> >>wouldn't >> >>>>be very much in their interests to do this ! >>>> >>> >>>If Kim is a crazy as Mao (and he's probably a lot crazier) >> >>I don't think Kim is crazy. I think he has to prove that he >>is as big a god as his father. Being on equal footing (IOW >>having and wielding nuclear bombs) with the rest of the >>world powers is necessary to keep his god image up. We >>are dealing with a different kind of religious fanaticsim, I >>think. >> > > > Anybody who would beat, torture, and starve to death millions of his > own subjects qualifies for my definition of crazy. Your standards may > vary. > > >>>he may >>>consider a nuclear exchange acceptable, as Mao apparently did. Both >>>starved millions of their own people to suit their own purposes. Even >>>Deng was reportedly once told that a certain policy would cost a >>>million lives, and replied that a million wasn't all that many. >> >>Western civilization puts value on human life; this is one >>of the things that people, known as our enemies, want to change. > > > Some cultures worship death. Yuk. > > John > maybe death is a better alternative in those cultures? -- "I am never wrong, once i thought i was, but i was mistaken" Real Programmers Do things like this. http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
From: Eeyore on 16 Oct 2006 12:22 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >> >Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >>The rest of the world loathes the USA. They didn't used to. You've had to > >> >>work hard toget to that position. > >> > > >> >From a eurocentric point of view, maybe so. But India and China and > >> >Japan and Africa don't count, apparently. > >> > >> Nor the eastern countries of Europe. > > > >Eh ? > > Q.E.D. What do you *mean* ? I suspect you have a flawed idea about eastern Europe. Most of it's in the EU now btw. Graham
From: Eeyore on 16 Oct 2006 12:23 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > >While I don't agree with the rest of the world loathes the US argument, it > >is undeniable that most countries in the world have a low opinion of > >"America" (as an entity) and it's actions on the world stage. > > Why do you equate a few European countries with most of the > rest of world? He didn't. His point is that the low opinion of the USA is world wide. Graham
From: Eeyore on 16 Oct 2006 12:24 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >So WW2 is responsible for *everything* ???????? > > Did you think that a political climate that culiminated with > WWII went away when people quit fighting? War endings are > never like a FORTRAN program where the CALL to EXIT stops > everything. So everything also caused by WW1 then. Graham
From: Eeyore on 16 Oct 2006 12:25
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >You'd have to conceive of a situation where N Korea could benefit from such > >action for it to make sense though. > > Do you understand that the leader of N. Korea is also its Godhead? > Demonstrating power is a natural act for this kind of thinking. What's your point exactly ? > >Since the likely result would be 'wiping N Korea off the map' it really > wouldn't > >be very much in their interests to do this ! > > Why do you think this will happen? Haven't you been listening > to the UN debates about what to do with the latest sin committed > by N. Korea? What's your point exactly ? Graham |