From: Jonathan Kirwan on
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:06:04 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >Jonathan Kirwan wrote:
>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >JoeBloe wrote:
>>
>> >> >> All of Islam (read the moslems) believe that all others that are not
>> >> >> moslem are "infidels" and that killing them is not, nor should not be
>> >> >> a crime.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have a problem with that. Do you not have a problem with that?
>> >> >
>> >> >If it was true I would have a problem with it. It's simply not true though.
>> >> >Do you really believe that nonsense ?
>> >> >
>> >> >Graham
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes I don't think Europeans understand the religious atmosphere
>> >> here in the US and probably no imagination for the extreme reaches of
>> >> it or how it actually influences politics here. I have a hard time,
>> >> too, so here is a page that paints one of the extreme but important
>> >> influences:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/12/105122/66
>> >>
>> >> In the latter part of it you will see how "thinking" is blocked and
>> >> dismantled.
>> >>
>> >> Imagine living in the middle of this. I do.
>> >
>> >It's insane. It's gobbledegook.
>> >
>> >I can't even relate to this. It's like a bad dream.
>>
>> No it's not. It's diversity, pluralism, and democracy. We have a
>> Constitution and courts to enforce the rules of the game, and then we
>> play it.
>
>It's still quite mad.

And politically potent, right now. Keep that clearly in mind as you
see US Republican political platforms playing out. They need this
base, desperately.

Jon
From: T Wake on

"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:32:47 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
>
>>
>>
>>JoeBloe wrote:
>>
>>> I would also point to the day Saddam's statue was felled. Or do you
>>> think all those Iraqis cheering were paid for?
>>
>>They were cheering the fall of Saddam not the US troops.
>>
>
> So our facilitating said fall was merely coincidental?
>
> You're a real prize. I'll bet anyone from your country reading your
> tripe in this thread is quite proud of you.

Prouder than Americans are of you I suspect.


From: lucasea on

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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>
> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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>> In article <DuGdnR_IgIsP06_YnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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>>>> In article <b972j2hg5vph0kft82futt7v3sd8r5penb(a)4ax.com>,
>>>> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 05:43:04 +0100, Eeyore
>>>>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The rest of the world loathes the USA. They didn't used to. You've had
>>>>>>to
>>>> work hard to
>>>>>>get to that position.
>>>>>
>>>>>From a eurocentric point of view, maybe so. But India and China and
>>>>>Japan and Africa don't count, apparently.
>>>>
>>>> Nor the eastern countries of Europe.
>>>
>>>While I don't agree with the rest of the world loathes the US argument,
>>>it
>>>is undeniable that most countries in the world have a low opinion of
>>>"America" (as an entity) and it's actions on the world stage.
>>
>> Why do you equate a few European countries with most of the
>> rest of world?
>
> I don't. When did I do that?

Another strawman aimed at allowing her to not take your reasoned opinion
seriously. The hallmark of Republican politics these days, I'm afraid.

Eric Lucas


From: T Wake on

"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:27:41 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us:
>
>>
>>"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
>>news:c3f5j2di76enggbaabefl3js2mo5570n4f(a)4ax.com...
>>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:18:44 +0100, Eeyore
>>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
>>>
>>>>and the USA would have been seen as liberating heroes.
>>>
>>> We were, you retarded fuckhead.
>>
>>And most Iraqis have said they would rather not have the brand of
>>"liberation" that we rained down on their heads.
>>
>
> So now you know what "most Iraqis have said"? Bullshit, little boy.
> You know nothing about it, and that remark proves it.

Yet you can claim to "know" most Iraqi schools did not have books based on a
few news items. You are a real hypocritical sycophant.

As is often the case, American involvement has meant the Iraqis are now free
to do as the Americans want them to do. Brilliant. Well done.


From: lucasea on

"Jamie" <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_(a)charter.net> wrote in message
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> John Larkin wrote:
>
>> Some cultures worship death. Yuk.
>>
> maybe death is a better alternative in those
> cultures?

And which cultures would those be, that worship death?

Eric Lucas