From: Jonathan Kirwan on 16 Oct 2006 02:10 On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:43:13 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >Jonathan Kirwan wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >JoeBloe wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >> >> >JoeBloe wrote: >> >> >>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >> >> >> >> >> >> >More 'Christian' propaganda you willingly lapped up ? >> >> >> >> >> >> You're an idiot. Now that you have been pegged, and proven to be a >> >> >> US hater, you try to switch it to Christian hater. >> >> > >> >> >I respect ppl's right to practice religion. I'm offended by any religion >> >> >that inspires ignorance though lies whether that be Christian, Moslem or >> >> >other. >> >> >> >> All of Islam (read the moslems) believe that all others that are not >> >> moslem are "infidels" and that killing them is not, nor should not be >> >> a crime. >> >> >> >> I have a problem with that. Do you not have a problem with that? >> > >> >If it was true I would have a problem with it. It's simply not true though. >> >Do you really believe that nonsense ? >> > >> >Graham >> >> Sometimes I don't think Europeans understand the religious atmosphere >> here in the US and probably no imagination for the extreme reaches of >> it or how it actually influences politics here. I have a hard time, >> too, so here is a page that paints one of the extreme but important >> influences: >> >> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/12/105122/66 >> >> In the latter part of it you will see how "thinking" is blocked and >> dismantled. >> >> Imagine living in the middle of this. I do. > >It's insane. It's gobbledegook. > >I can't even relate to this. It's like a bad dream. It's all your folks' fault, considering who you sent over here a few centuries ago. ;) It is real. It is scary. They are here and they have a LOT of money and political clout. Tens of billions of dollars each year, mostly going into capital assets according to some gov't reports I've read. (I posted a link here providing the magnitude, already.) The Rev. Sun Myung Moon (one of those coercive religious leaders) and our US leadership were at his self-coronation as messiah. Look it up. It was a March 23rd, 2004 ceremony. The Rev. also funds a college building or two at the George C Marshall Institute and pretty much carries a lot of influence around Washington DC. Evangelicals in the US account for some 30% of the population. Of those, the really scary crazy ones are a significant subfraction. But a potentially very dangerous portion. If you wanted to visit here, I'd easily drive you to a few huge places where they have their own special "schools" and fenced homes areas and I'm pretty sure you'd leave here uncontrollably shaking and preparing yourself for a coming Armageddon. It's enough serious that it cannot be ignored as an influence and it really needs to be nipped, somehow. Jon P.S. Here's just the initial snippet of one news report. Note that this was a congressional reception: ------------------- The Rev. Moon Honored at Hill Reception Lawmakers Say They Were Misled By Charles Babington and Alan Cooperman Washington Post Staff Writers Wednesday, June 23, 2004; Page A01 More than a dozen lawmakers attended a congressional reception this year honoring the Rev. Sun Myung Moon in which Moon declared himself the Messiah and said his teachings have helped Hitler and Stalin be "reborn as new persons." At the March 23 ceremony in the Dirksen Senate Office Building, ...
From: Jonathan Kirwan on 16 Oct 2006 02:11 On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:43:13 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >Jonathan Kirwan wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >JoeBloe wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >> >> >JoeBloe wrote: >> >> >>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >> >> >> >> >> >> >More 'Christian' propaganda you willingly lapped up ? >> >> >> >> >> >> You're an idiot. Now that you have been pegged, and proven to be a >> >> >> US hater, you try to switch it to Christian hater. >> >> > >> >> >I respect ppl's right to practice religion. I'm offended by any religion >> >> >that inspires ignorance though lies whether that be Christian, Moslem or >> >> >other. >> >> >> >> All of Islam (read the moslems) believe that all others that are not >> >> moslem are "infidels" and that killing them is not, nor should not be >> >> a crime. >> >> >> >> I have a problem with that. Do you not have a problem with that? >> > >> >If it was true I would have a problem with it. It's simply not true though. >> >Do you really believe that nonsense ? >> > >> >Graham >> >> Sometimes I don't think Europeans understand the religious atmosphere >> here in the US and probably no imagination for the extreme reaches of >> it or how it actually influences politics here. I have a hard time, >> too, so here is a page that paints one of the extreme but important >> influences: >> >> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/12/105122/66 >> >> In the latter part of it you will see how "thinking" is blocked and >> dismantled. >> >> Imagine living in the middle of this. I do. > >It's insane. It's gobbledegook. > >I can't even relate to this. It's like a bad dream. It could certainly explain JoeBlow. Jon
From: Eeyore on 16 Oct 2006 02:16 Jamie wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > Jamie wrote: > > >>would it be ok, if another foreign power (not USA) comes stomping > >>on your shores, and we just sit back and watch ? > > > > It's not going to happen is it ? > > > > Graham > > > i don't know?, you seem to be the expert! you > tell me? Fine. It's not going to happen. Graham
From: Eeyore on 16 Oct 2006 02:19 JoeBloe wrote: > Sorry, that's just how it is. You wouldn't ever know 'how it is' in a month of Sundays. Graham
From: Eeyore on 16 Oct 2006 02:20
JoeBloe wrote: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:08:51 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us: > > >And the Bible advocates violence against malfeasants. > > Cite? Try the Old Testament. Graham |