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From: Frank Bemelman on 16 Oct 2006 04:37 "Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> schreef in bericht news:e3m5j2lple94veach42a3080hf6mfjuta9(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:03:54 +0100, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >><snip> >>> Originally, to defend Europe, Japan, Korea, Taiwan. I think it's time >>> to pull out of the European bases and let them pay for their own >>> defense, now that they don't need much of it. >> >>I agree. I cant see the US military being too happy at it. Forward staging >>bases are pretty useful. > > Europeans are already beginning to work out the details of a European, > as opposed to individual country, military with soldiers who swear > allegiance to the united countries and not the country they come from. > Yes? > > With the US behaving the way it is, I'd wonder if the Europeans would > bite at the chance to field an independent force sufficiently funded > to balance US behavior and provide the necessary 'encouragements' so > the US negotiates no longer as an unopposed bully. Seems the only way to deal with the US if they don't change their behaviour. It would not surprise me this is already a topic on hidden agendas for quite a while. The Gallileo GPS system may have been a result of such plans. The plans that are not discussed in public of course. While I prefer to see my tax money spend on other things than military goals, it may be the only way to put a stop to the growing American arrogance. -- Thanks, Frank. (remove 'q' and '.invalid' when replying by email)
From: Daniel Mandic on 16 Oct 2006 04:51 Jamie wrote: > JoeBlow has friends :) Me too! Best Regards, Daniel Mandic
From: Jonathan Kirwan on 16 Oct 2006 05:40 On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:37:10 +0200, "Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote: >"Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> schreef in bericht >news:e3m5j2lple94veach42a3080hf6mfjuta9(a)4ax.com... >> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:03:54 +0100, "T Wake" >> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >>><snip> >>>> Originally, to defend Europe, Japan, Korea, Taiwan. I think it's time >>>> to pull out of the European bases and let them pay for their own >>>> defense, now that they don't need much of it. >>> >>>I agree. I cant see the US military being too happy at it. Forward staging >>>bases are pretty useful. >> >> Europeans are already beginning to work out the details of a European, >> as opposed to individual country, military with soldiers who swear >> allegiance to the united countries and not the country they come from. >> Yes? >> >> With the US behaving the way it is, I'd wonder if the Europeans would >> bite at the chance to field an independent force sufficiently funded >> to balance US behavior and provide the necessary 'encouragements' so >> the US negotiates no longer as an unopposed bully. > >Seems the only way to deal with the US if they don't change their >behaviour. It would not surprise me this is already a topic on hidden >agendas for quite a while. The Gallileo GPS system may have been >a result of such plans. That exact thought had crossed my mind about a year ago, in fact. >The plans that are not discussed in public of >course. While I prefer to see my tax money spend on other things >than military goals, it may be the only way to put a stop to the >growing American arrogance. I remember Kennedy in his June 10th, 1963 speech at the American University Commencement. What I particularly recall are these fragments: (1) "I have, therefore, chosen this time and place to discuss a topic on which ignorance too often abounds and the truth too rarely perceived. And that is the most important topic on earth: peace. What kind of peace do I mean and what kind of a peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, and the kind that enables men and nations to grow, and to hope, and build a better life for their children -- not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women, not merely peace in our time but peace in all time." (2) "No government or social system is so evil that its people must be considered as lacking in virtue." (3) "The United States, as the world knows, will never start a war. We do not want a war. We do not now expect a war. This generation of Americans has already had enough -- more than enough -- of war and hate and oppression." -------------- How things change. Jon
From: joseph2k on 16 Oct 2006 06:17 Eeyore wrote: > > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > >> Lloyd Parker wrote: >> > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> > >Lloyd Parker wrote: >> > >> >> > >> They were calling on frequencies the pilot probably wasn't even >> > >> monitoring. >> > > >> > > How much do you know about commercial and military aircraft >> > >communications? >> > > >> > > >> > I've posted a reference now twice. >> >> I'm not going to wade through 3092 posts to look for it. I want >> brands, model numbers, and specifications of the radio equipment on both >> the airliner and the ship. I can't believe that the ship, or the >> airliner couldn't transmit and monitor on disaster frequencies for air >> sea rescues. I've spent my life working on communications systems, and >> I don't believe it. > > Really ? It's well known to be a problem that airliners and the military > use different frequencies. > > Why would an airliner be listening on a military band even if they had the > kit ? > > Graham Having been in the military, on board a ship at sea, and having been a technician with access to the radio equipment; i can categorically state from sure experiential knowledge, that most any US military ship can transmit and receive on any frequency from 1 Mhz (well inside the "AM" radio band) to 3 GHz (well through all air control and emergency frequencies). It has been explicitly stated that the US military ships used standard air control and emergency frequencies to communicate with the airliner. It is also worthwhile to remind posters that English is the "standard" air control language world wide. -- JosephKK Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens. --Schiller
From: Daniel Mandic on 16 Oct 2006 06:20
JoeBloe wrote: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:08:51 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us: > > > > > You have fantasies of anally raping men, and we should take your > > word for it, exactly why? > > No, I do not. What I have is a unique way of telling some retard > that calls me a girl that I am in no way a girl. Got clue? > > Why are you even in the thread if you are not up on the topic you > expound on? It is a known fact that the quran includes such writings > as those I spoke of. Do you deny this fact? You are one of the 'never lose' types. So you must either win or lose. Best regards, Daniel Mandic |