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From: Eeyore on 31 Oct 2006 11:43 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> YD <ydtechHAT(a)techie.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Even so an insignificant fraction of all knowledgeable business > >> >people. Any business not having backups off-site shouldn't have been > >> >in business in the first place. > >> > >> You are assuming that the person who knows where and how to > >> retrieve it is still alive and able to think and remember. > > > >*The* person ! > > Yes. One individual would do that work. You think so do you ? > >You are assuming that the disaster recovery plan was designed by total morons > > sothat there's one key person who vanishes with the disaster. > > You are assuming that all businesses are corporations that have > thousands of employees. I'm talking about small businesses who > had at most a couple dozen employees, including the owner(s). And these small businesses are based in the New York WTC are they ? > >Just how stupid are you ? > > Not as stupid as you are. You're utterly raving ! > >You're an ignorant troll with not even half a brain. > > Wrong. Based on what you use for thinking, I don't have > any brains. Nitwit. Graham
From: unsettled on 31 Oct 2006 13:36 Lloyd Parker wrote: > In article <ee2c$454690aa$4fe716b$704(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>Lloyd Parker wrote: >> >> >>>In article <ei4s7g$8qk_001(a)s787.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>>In article <1162139745.736188.86580(a)h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, >>>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>In article <1161875197.735056.288140(a)m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>><snip delusional expectations that Democrats never fulfilled> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>The latest edict is forcing everybody to have >>>>>>medical insurance; if you don't the rumor is that income >>>>>>tax penalties will be imposed. >>>>> >>>>>The state pays for hospitals etc for those who can't pay. They don't >>>>>want those who can't pay dieing in the streets so they have to fund >>>>>their medical needs. There are some people who can afford to pay for >>>>>their own health care who choose to spunge off the system. To >>>>>discourage this, they are making those who can affort to have >>>>>insurance, but refuse to get it, pay a little extra towards the care of >>>>>those who can't afford it. It is a completely rational thing to do if >>>>>you have the state paying for those who can't. >>>>> >>>>>If you don't do this you must either cut off the medical care to the >>>>>poor or spread the cost of it evenly between the responsible and >>>>>irresponsible. Neither of these options is better than the one taken. >>>> >>>>Massachusetts implemented this with car insurance. It is a mess >>>>and people are trying to get rid of it. The fact that the Democrats >>>>have implemented a similar structure for medical insurance (this >>>>is NOT medical care) bodes ill for all, especially those who >>>>cannot pay. The new thing that these idiots have implemented is >>>>tying the payments to income taxes. They did this with sales >>>>tax and nobody, absolutely nobody, has complained. Think about >>>>a sales tax which is tied to your income level. I suspect, since >>>>nobody bitched, these Democrats have done the same thing with >>>>medical insurance. >>>> >>> >>> >>>Europe uses a centralized payment for medical care, as do Canada and Japan. > > > >>>They cover everybody and spend less. >> >>How long a wait is there for a hip replacement? >> >>How long here in the US? >> > > > Depends. Do you have insurance? What does it cover? > > >>Canadians regularly come to the US and pay for surgery >>100% out of pocket because the waiting period is too >>long. Perhaps not in huge numbers, but enough to be >>noticeable. >> >> > > No they don't. Excuse me, I'm not talking through my hat on this one. > Most Canadians, in survey after survey, are satisfied with > their health insurance. Take note of the word "most." That's not 100%. Among those others who are not satisfied are some who regularly come to the US for medical procedures.
From: unsettled on 31 Oct 2006 13:45 Lloyd Parker wrote: > In article <4546F83D.F310F6AD(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >>unsettled wrote: >> >> >>>Lloyd Parker wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Europe uses a centralized payment for medical care, as do Canada and > > Japan. > >>>>They cover everybody and spend less. >>> >>>How long a wait is there for a hip replacement? >>> >>>How long here in the US? >>> >>>Canadians regularly come to the US and pay for surgery >>>100% out of pocket because the waiting period is too >>>long. Perhaps not in huge numbers, but enough to be >>>noticeable. >> >>South Africa and India are also destinations offering medical services to ppl >>here who are fed up with waiting. >> >>Waiting lists for some operations can be a problem here. >> >>Graham >> >> > > > Not having operations because you can't afford them is also a problem here. > > The best medical care in the world is useless if you can't afford it. > > Plus, our system of employers providing health insurance puts them at a > competitive disadvantage world-wide. You do realize that this final sentence of yours makes no sense at all. Employers who provide insurance are *not* at a competitive disadvantage worldwide. Where there's national health insurance, which is universal in any given country, where does the money come from? From the unemployed, perhaps?
From: unsettled on 31 Oct 2006 13:55 Lloyd Parker appears to have an average US education. Lloyd Parker wrote: > In article <6bc19$454692e6$4fe716b$813(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>Lloyd Parker wrote: >> >> >>>In article <ei224n$8ss_004(a)s765.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>snip >> >> >>>>>What excuse is there for 1/20th of the world's population using 1/4 of the >>>>>world's energy production ? >> >>>>You forgot to include the last datum; the goods and services produced. >> >>>Our GDP is about the same as Europe's, which uses a lot less energy. >> >>There's much more that these few items to consider. >> >>What is our population density. > So? Do people regularly travel hundreds of miles? If so, something's wrong. Goods have to. How much of your food is locally produced? Then consider the origination point for all the other stuff you buy. >>What is the geographic size >>(distribution systems matter.) What are the weather patterns? >>Much of continental Europe has milder weather. > Hello, Alps? There're mountains all over; few large plains. Check > Scandanavian weather and geography too. Blather, blather, and more maningless blather. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Stream That's a good place to start learning something about the world beyond your walls. >>Also compare the availability of goods and services in Europe >>and other places in the world to ours. >>People who question our consumption levels by comparison to >>the rest of the world really need to experience the living >>conditions in those other places.
From: unsettled on 31 Oct 2006 14:09
Lloyd Parker wrote: > In article <fo6dk2hpprhg7jii1rq5un96dqad6fn398(a)4ax.com>, > John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > >>On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:04:32 -0600, unsettled >><unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >> >>>Lloyd Parker wrote: >>> >>> >>>>In article <ei4s7g$8qk_001(a)s787.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <1162139745.736188.86580(a)h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, >>>>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>In article <1161875197.735056.288140(a)m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>><snip delusional expectations that Democrats never fulfilled> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>The latest edict is forcing everybody to have >>>>>>>medical insurance; if you don't the rumor is that income >>>>>>>tax penalties will be imposed. >>>>>> >>>>>>The state pays for hospitals etc for those who can't pay. They don't >>>>>>want those who can't pay dieing in the streets so they have to fund >>>>>>their medical needs. There are some people who can afford to pay for >>>>>>their own health care who choose to spunge off the system. To >>>>>>discourage this, they are making those who can affort to have >>>>>>insurance, but refuse to get it, pay a little extra towards the care of >>>>>>those who can't afford it. It is a completely rational thing to do if >>>>>>you have the state paying for those who can't. >>>>>> >>>>>>If you don't do this you must either cut off the medical care to the >>>>>>poor or spread the cost of it evenly between the responsible and >>>>>>irresponsible. Neither of these options is better than the one taken. >>>>> >>>>>Massachusetts implemented this with car insurance. It is a mess >>>>>and people are trying to get rid of it. The fact that the Democrats >>>>>have implemented a similar structure for medical insurance (this >>>>>is NOT medical care) bodes ill for all, especially those who >>>>>cannot pay. The new thing that these idiots have implemented is >>>>>tying the payments to income taxes. They did this with sales >>>>>tax and nobody, absolutely nobody, has complained. Think about >>>>>a sales tax which is tied to your income level. I suspect, since >>>>>nobody bitched, these Democrats have done the same thing with >>>>>medical insurance. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Europe uses a centralized payment for medical care, as do Canada and > > Japan. > >>>>They cover everybody and spend less. >> >>--- >>And often cover a body with dirt because of the scrimping? >> > > > Higher life expectancy than in the US, lower infant mortality, to name two > that belie your assertion. Once again, blather, blather, and more meaningless blather. A large number of factors *other* than health care go into better life expectancy and lower infant mortality. To name a few, better eating (fewer red meats for example) and less tobacco consumption come immediately to mind, and statistically fewer drivers with a greater reliance on mass transportation. The European and Japanese parents don't rush out and buy the kid a car as soon as the kid gets a drivers license. > --- > >>>How long a wait is there for a hip replacement? >>> >>>How long here in the US? >>> >>>Canadians regularly come to the US and pay for surgery >>>100% out of pocket because the waiting period is too >>>long. Perhaps not in huge numbers, but enough to be >>>noticeable. >> >>--- >>Canadians don't come to the US to get hip replacements, they come >>here to get hip in the first place. ;) >> >> |