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From: Eeyore on 31 Oct 2006 02:16 unsettled wrote: > Lloyd Parker wrote: > > > > > Europe uses a centralized payment for medical care, as do Canada and Japan. > > They cover everybody and spend less. > > How long a wait is there for a hip replacement? > > How long here in the US? > > Canadians regularly come to the US and pay for surgery > 100% out of pocket because the waiting period is too > long. Perhaps not in huge numbers, but enough to be > noticeable. South Africa and India are also destinations offering medical services to ppl here who are fed up with waiting. Waiting lists for some operations can be a problem here. Graham
From: Eeyore on 31 Oct 2006 02:17 unsettled wrote: > Also compare the availability of goods and services in Europe > and other places in the world to ours. What !!!! Are you being funny ? Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 31 Oct 2006 07:25 In article <n08ck293hiufr9mcc3os6qfjn3f2dcq9he(a)4ax.com>, YD <ydtechHAT(a)techie.com> wrote: >Late at night, by candle light, Eeyore ><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> penned this immortal opus: > >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>Largely financial institutions as far as I know. That's not exclusively >>> >>>about world trade. >>> >> >>> >> You overlooked the commodities and shipping businesses. >>> > >>> >Still not the centre of world trade. There are more economically important >>> >buildings in New York, let alone globally. >>> >>> You are exhibiting complete idiocy. It was the people, their knowledge >>> and the data that mattered. >> >>The data's very unlikely to have been lost and at the end of the day it was only >>2602 deaths in New York of which 403 were Fire, Police and Port Authority >>workers. >> >>That makes 2199 deaths in the towers. How many of those were truly 'key workers' >>? Maybe 1/4 ? >> >>Ok so that's 550 key workers lost. A large number but not irreplaceable as is >>seen by the evidence. >> >>Graham >> >> > >Even so an insignificant fraction of all knowledgeable business >people. Any business not having backups off-site shouldn't have been >in business in the first place. You are assuming that the person who knows where and how to retrieve it is still alive and able to think and remember. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 31 Oct 2006 07:27 In article <45466503.70E85F2E(a)earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> In article <4544FCB4.770A024C(a)earthlink.net>, >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> > >> > I was building a new workshop when I lived there. I had the walls and >> >roof trusses up when I walked out one morning and opened the big steel >> >doors to see a large rat snake hanging from the rafters, a few inches >> >from my face. I grabbed a 2" * 4" and wrapped the snake around the end >> >of it, and pulled it out of the rafters. I stepped outside and swung >> >the 2" * 4" towards the marsh, and the snake went airborne. Just then a >> >gator popped up out of the water, caught the snake, and disappeared. I >> >didn't need any caffeine that morning. ;-) >> >> ROTFLAMO. What did you have for breakfast? A couple of shots >> of Jack Daniels. Poor snake. >> > Nothing for breakfast, or lunch. I used to skip a lot of meals, and >now I'm paying for it with diabetes and high blood pressure. That's odd. > > The snake broke our deal. If they stayed away from the house and >other buildings, they were allowed to live. I killed another rat snake >one night. I tried to close the door to the shop, but it was between >the door and the jamb. I didn't know it was there when I tried to close >the door. The door swung back at me, so I shoved it again. The second >time I tried, it was flattened, and fell outside. What were they eating? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 31 Oct 2006 07:35
In article <ei57gl$3mf$9(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <ei4s7g$8qk_001(a)s787.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>In article <1162139745.736188.86580(a)h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, >> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> In article <1161875197.735056.288140(a)m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, >>>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >><snip delusional expectations that Democrats never fulfilled> >> >> >>>> The latest edict is forcing everybody to have >>>> medical insurance; if you don't the rumor is that income >>>> tax penalties will be imposed. >>> >>>The state pays for hospitals etc for those who can't pay. They don't >>>want those who can't pay dieing in the streets so they have to fund >>>their medical needs. There are some people who can afford to pay for >>>their own health care who choose to spunge off the system. To >>>discourage this, they are making those who can affort to have >>>insurance, but refuse to get it, pay a little extra towards the care of >>>those who can't afford it. It is a completely rational thing to do if >>>you have the state paying for those who can't. >>> >>>If you don't do this you must either cut off the medical care to the >>>poor or spread the cost of it evenly between the responsible and >>>irresponsible. Neither of these options is better than the one taken. >> >>Massachusetts implemented this with car insurance. It is a mess >>and people are trying to get rid of it. The fact that the Democrats >>have implemented a similar structure for medical insurance (this >>is NOT medical care) bodes ill for all, especially those who >>cannot pay. The new thing that these idiots have implemented is >>tying the payments to income taxes. They did this with sales >>tax and nobody, absolutely nobody, has complained. Think about >>a sales tax which is tied to your income level. I suspect, since >>nobody bitched, these Democrats have done the same thing with >>medical insurance. >> > >Europe uses a centralized payment for medical care, as do Canada and Japan. >They cover everybody and spend less. And deliver less service over a longer period of time. This is not the way medicine works to be effective. Mess prevention is a key element in treating disease. The only timely treatment these systems are good at is treating people who are well. That's not what medical insurance is supposed to do. Medical insurance used to supply coverage for extraordinary circumstances. Now it does the opposite. > >>Please note that there is a huge difference between medical >>insurance and actual medical care. >> >> >>> >>>If you rely on private charity hospitals, you will find a lot of >>>disagreeable people can't get care. Back when there was entirely >>>private charity, there was the idea of "the deserving poor". Those who >>>were not "deserving" didn't get charity. This may sound like a good >>>idea until you think about what it does to public health. The poor end >>>up acting as a breeding ground for and a resevoir of diseases. You >>>could not of gotten rid of polio without treating everyone. >> >>None of this is about the poor. All of this is about absconding >>people's monies and spending it for them. > >Like the Pentagon? You still have zero knowledge about how the US Constitution works. /BAH |