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From: unsettled on 3 Nov 2006 13:48 MooseFET wrote: > unsettled wrote: > >>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > > [...] > >>>Gallup is "suspect"...right.... You will label anything you don't like with >>>any pejorative label you can come up with, just so you don't have to deal >>>with it. Nice. >> >>You argue like a first grader. > > > But you are losing to him. > Are you following him, or are you following the lemming directly?
From: unsettled on 3 Nov 2006 13:50 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <454B3D79.250DEEA6(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>The last thing I'd fancy after a long flight is shopping ! >>>>> >>>>>I observed this behaviour when we went to China. Our tour >>>>>groups were upper middle class people. We arrived at the >>>>>Great Wall and the shopaholics turned left to go into the >>>>>store while we turned right to go on the Great Wall and walk >>>>>a little bit of it. These people never saw the Great Wall. >>>>> >>>>>They went half-way around the world and didn't even bother to >>>>>look at a remarkable feat of the human species. >>>> >>>>Americans ??? >>> >>>Not all were. I think this had more to do with people who had >>>new money. It was certainly a lesson to me about people who >>>don't know how work gets done. >> >>I can't imagine what goes through their minds. > > > Oh, I can imagine. A good example is this thread. You betcha. New money, such as it is. >>>That part of the Wall was amazing. We climbed it and walked it. >>>JMF has fear of heights. He wanted to go on (est. angle of >>>some of walk was >45 degrees). I looked back and then had to >>>look _down_. I figured I'd have to carry him back if we went any >>>further. >> >>I'm glad you enjoyed it. >> >>My time on mainland China was really just involved with business in the > > Shenzhen > >>area. I'd like to see more though. > > > I'm going to get up and look it up. I don't know where that > area is. > >>I do like Hong Kong big time though ! > > > Hong Kong was a amazing when were there. I don't know how > it has changed since China took it over, though.
From: Eeyore on 3 Nov 2006 13:50 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >T Wake wrote: > > >> Do you take this to imply there is a *shortage* of the goods and services > >> in Europe? > > > >I was hoping to discover this too. > > > >Maybe BAH can enlighten us ? > > I don't know about now... > > People would fly over to buy computers, blue jeans, tooth paste, > books, condiments. To the USA ? Well..... we do actually have computers here. In fact the Dell brand sells well here too. http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/default.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs I do know that there are some 'cuts' of jeans that may only be available in the USA due to perceived national fashion differences but there's no shortage of them over here nor toothpaste, books or condiments for that matter. > There was something else that was very odd > but I can't remember what it was. These items were cheaper, if > available for sale in European stores. Most were not available > and could not be ordered. Buying the stuff while you were in > your country was not allowed but you could go over and buy the > stuff as a tourist. Not allowed ? What do you mean exactly ? > These restrictions may have to be dropped now that there is > online shopping available. There never have been any restrictions on what you can buy since rationing from WW2 ended in the 50s. You're a funny old girl you know ! Graham
From: unsettled on 3 Nov 2006 13:53 Lloyd Parker wrote: > In article <d908b$454a26a8$4fe71d7$24805(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>Lloyd Parker wrote: >> >> >>>In article <eicp5g$8qk_014(a)s950.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>>In article <454952A9.54CB1E21(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>unsettled wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Eeyore wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>unsettled wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>MooseFET wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>unsettled wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Where there's national health insurance, which is universal >>>>>>>>>>in any given country, where does the money come from? From >>>>>>>>>>the unemployed, perhaps? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>It also comes from the employers but less money is required so the US >>>>>>>>>employers who provide health insurance are placed at a disadvantage. >>>>>>>>>In the US health care costs about 60% more than in Canada so US >>>>>>>>>employers are at a disadvantage to that degree. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>There is some compensating advantage in that in Canada, you have to >>>>>>>>>spend hugely on heating so your workers don't freeze to death on the >>>>>>>>>shop floor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I really love this. You actually think you're getting >>>>>>>>something for nothing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It's less expensive the 'socialist' way. >>>>>> >>>>>>Hoodwinked. Bwahahahahahaha. >>>>>> >>>>>>Never. >>>>> >>>>>It's a simple fact. >>>>> >>>>>USA 2003 $1.7 trillion. >>>>>( $5666 per head of population ) >>>>>http://www.kaiseredu.org/topics_im.asp?imID=1&parentID=61&id=358 >>>>> >>>>>UK NHS budget ?76.4 billion. >>>>>( ? 1273 per head of population ) >>>>>http://www.dh.gov.uk/PublicationsAndStatistics/PressReleases/PressReleases > > No > >>>t >>> >>> >>>>ices/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4127292&chk=HDOR9C >>>> >>>> >>>>>And of course in the USA it's only those with health insurance who get >>> >>>proper >>> >>> >>>>>treatment. >>>> >>>>Wrong. I have insurance. I have no access to treatment unless >>>>I get "permission" from the primary care physician to whom I've >>>>been assigned. If you are already ill with an untreatable disease >>>>you have no access unless the PCP is cooperative. Mine isn't and >>>>nobody will take new patients who are already ill. >>>> >>>>That is why I'm trying to point out that having insurance is >>>>not a guarantee you will get access to treatment when you need it. >>>>The only thing our politicians are trying to do is to make >>>>the insurance available to all from a single payer, the US >>>>government. This will cause a decrease in access. >>>> >>>>/BAH >>> >>> >>>Wrong. The gov't as payer has no reason to deny payments, unlike a > > for-profit > >>>private insurance company. Note that Medicare has far less overhead > > expenses > >>>than any private insurance company. >> >> >>Bullshit. >> > > > What, the Medicare datum? Look it up, damn it, before spouting off about > something you are obviously ignorant about. You can't even follow this discussion. There's nothing to look up. Correct your reading and comprehension deficiencies before continuing. >>I am about to get onto the appeal merry-go-round with >>medicare about an MRI where they only approve a CT >>scan. I am allergic to iodine/shellfish based >>radiographic dye, so the alternative was prescribed >>by my physician.
From: Eeyore on 3 Nov 2006 13:54
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >My time on mainland China was really just involved with business in the > >Shenzhen area. I'd like to see more though. > > I'm going to get up and look it up. I don't know where that > area is. On the mainland next to Hong Kong. We got there from Hong Kong by ferry in fact and returned by train. > >I do like Hong Kong big time though ! > > Hong Kong was a amazing when were there. I don't know how > it has changed since China took it over, though. Very little AIUI. They even still drive on the British side of the road. Graham |