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From: T Wake on 3 Nov 2006 15:32 <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:WRM2h.741$7F3.414(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:454B96E3.580EEEFE(a)hotmail.com... >> >> >> T Wake wrote: >> >>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>> >>> There are *some* areas where there are different goods / services but >>> there >>> is certainly no shortage of selection. >> >> Cheese ! God knows how many hundreds you can get here. The Americans >> certainly >> don't have the same wealth of choice. Wine probably too - and BEER ! >> We're well >> off for all of these. > > If you've not been to the US in a while, you might be surprised at the > choices of beer and wine we now have. In my opinion, California whites > and many reds have it *all* over France, Italy and Germany. The only > things that are rarer than hen's teeth here are a good dry Riesling, and a > Chardonnay that doesn't make you check your tongue for splinters. And as > for beer, there are literally hundreds of domestic microbrews that are > distributed all over the country now. It's not quite like Britain, where > I understand every town of any consequence has its own brew, but certainly > there are a lot, and many, many towns of more than 20,000 people do have > brewpubs, if not microbrewers that bottle and distribute. Many of them > are excellent. Even in the little hick backwater I lived in recently, we > could get some damn fine bitters, pale ales, brown ales and the like. > Import selection is quite impressive as well, particularly from England > and Belgium. I knew things were going well when I found Old Peculier in a > beer shop in a tiny little town of about 500 people in the middle of > nowhere. And they turned it over often enough that it was still reasonably > fresh. American tastes seem largely aligned with British beer > tastes--which in my opinion are far, far better than the largely > flavorless swill the Germans make. I am not a fan of wine so cant really comment one way or another. Some American beer is very nice (I went through a phase of hankering for the weird strawberry beers etc). Still, the best has to be Kroneburg or Stella Artois :-) Hoegarden is pretty good as well.
From: lucasea on 3 Nov 2006 15:33 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:454BA1EA.377A0D84(a)hotmail.com... > > > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> > T Wake wrote: >> >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> There are *some* areas where there are different goods / services but >> >> there is certainly no shortage of selection. >> > >> > Cheese ! God knows how many hundreds you can get here. The Americans >> > certainly don't have the same wealth of choice. Wine probably too - and >> > BEER >> ! We're >> > well off for all of these. >> >> If you've not been to the US in a while, you might be surprised at the >> choices of beer and wine we now have. In my opinion, California whites >> and >> many reds have it *all* over France, Italy and Germany. The only things >> that are rarer than hen's teeth here are a good dry Riesling, and a >> Chardonnay that doesn't make you check your tongue for splinters. And as >> for beer, there are literally hundreds of domestic microbrews that are >> distributed all over the country now. It's not quite like Britain, where >> I >> understand every town of any consequence has its own brew, but certainly >> there are a lot, and many, many towns of more than 20,000 people do have >> brewpubs, if not microbrewers that bottle and distribute. Many of them >> are >> excellent. Even in the little hick backwater I lived in recently, we >> could >> get some damn fine bitters, pale ales, brown ales and the like. Import >> selection is quite impressive as well, particularly from England and >> Belgium. I knew things were going well when I found Old Peculier in a >> beer >> shop in a tiny little town of about 500 people in the middle of nowhere. >> And they turned it over often enough that it was still reasonably fresh. >> American tastes seem largely aligned with British beer tastes--which in >> my >> opinion are far, far better than the largely flavorless swill the Germans >> make. > > I'm no great fan of French wine especially, not least because they keep > the best > stuff for themselves. > > Do you see much of Italian, Spanish, Chilean, Australian or South African > wines > there ? Absolutely. Especially Chile and Australia have quite a following here--and I have to agree, some of their whites are very nice. Italian is OK, but I like a lot of California wines better. I've seen Spanish wines in the grocery store, but haven't tried them. I've not seen any South African wine, I'm not sure if that's a holdover from the trade embargoes during Apartheid, or what. > My favourte beer right now is the genuine imported Holsten Pils btw. It's > certainly not flavourless by any standards ! Haven't seen it. The name sounds familiar, but I don't know that it gets imported here. My experience with German beers is they are very light on flavor, but I'm sure that's not true of all of them. BTW, Carlsberg has a contract to make it in Northampton, I'd be surprised if it's still the actual imported stuff you're drinking. > Budweiser is however the blandest > most flavourless beer I've ever had the misfortune to sample. Agreed, and it's too sweet as well. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 3 Nov 2006 15:44 "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message news:caWdnZyZJ6XHOtbYRVnyjw(a)pipex.net... > > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:WRM2h.741$7F3.414(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:454B96E3.580EEEFE(a)hotmail.com... >>> >>> >>> T Wake wrote: >>> >>>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>> There are *some* areas where there are different goods / services but >>>> there >>>> is certainly no shortage of selection. >>> >>> Cheese ! God knows how many hundreds you can get here. The Americans >>> certainly >>> don't have the same wealth of choice. Wine probably too - and BEER ! >>> We're well >>> off for all of these. >> >> If you've not been to the US in a while, you might be surprised at the >> choices of beer and wine we now have. In my opinion, California whites >> and many reds have it *all* over France, Italy and Germany. The only >> things that are rarer than hen's teeth here are a good dry Riesling, and >> a Chardonnay that doesn't make you check your tongue for splinters. And >> as for beer, there are literally hundreds of domestic microbrews that are >> distributed all over the country now. It's not quite like Britain, where >> I understand every town of any consequence has its own brew, but >> certainly there are a lot, and many, many towns of more than 20,000 >> people do have brewpubs, if not microbrewers that bottle and distribute. >> Many of them are excellent. Even in the little hick backwater I lived in >> recently, we could get some damn fine bitters, pale ales, brown ales and >> the like. Import selection is quite impressive as well, particularly from >> England and Belgium. I knew things were going well when I found Old >> Peculier in a beer shop in a tiny little town of about 500 people in the >> middle of nowhere. And they turned it over often enough that it was still >> reasonably fresh. American tastes seem largely aligned with British beer >> tastes--which in my opinion are far, far better than the largely >> flavorless swill the Germans make. > > I am not a fan of wine so cant really comment one way or another. Some > American beer is very nice (I went through a phase of hankering for the > weird strawberry beers etc). Yeeech! I seriously hope that's not what you think is the best of American beer! Do you get much Sam Adams over there, or Sierra Nevada? They're my favorite everyday, good-but-nothing-special beers. > Still, the best has to be Kroneburg or Stella Artois :-) Stella is OK. It's not hoppy enough for my taste, and it's hard to find a bottle or keg here that isn't skunky, even where it turns over heavily. It has to be the trip that kills it. Same with Heineken. > Hoegarden is pretty good as well. Yeah, I like a good spicy Belgian. Duvel and Corsendonk are my favorites of that genre. Eric Lucas
From: Eeyore on 3 Nov 2006 16:06 lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message > >> > > >> > It is amazing how "low class mass production public education" > >> > comes blasting through in your arguments. > >> > >> If you apply that moniker to MIT, then I'm fine with it, you can think > >> whatever you want. > >> > >> > You're still following those lemmings. > >> > >> And what lemmings would those be that you're imagining? > > > > http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.htm > > > > I expect 'unsettled' would be doing the pushing. > > Yes, I'm well aware of the proverbial lemming behavior. And that it's a myth ? That was the point I was making FWIW. Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Nov 2006 16:09
T Wake wrote: > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > > Still, the best has to be Kroneburg or Stella Artois :-) I'll be drinking some Stella later this evening. It's quite pleasant but not my fave, however the pub doesn't have my favourite, in fact draught Holsten is very rare indeed. > Hoegarden is pretty good as well. I've never really got on with that. White beers are an acquired taste I reckon. Graham |