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From: unsettled on 3 Nov 2006 18:49 lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message > news:a57c8$454b902a$4fe77ae$1746(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > >>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >> >> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:eifeh1$8qk_004(a)s820.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> >>> >>>>What counts with measuring the effectiveness of any social program >>>>is the individual stories, not the cut and dried percentages >>>>of service delivery counts. >>> >>> >>>And yet you prefer to believe impersonal books when learning about what >>>Islam is all about, instead of talking to actual Muslims. Your hypocrisy >>>on this issue suggests that you don't intrinsically prefer one or the >>>other (anecdotes or data), but rather in any given situation, you just >>>pick and choose what you believe by how well it supports your assumptions >>>and preconceived notions. Nice. >> >>How many Muslims have you spoken with? > > > Something on the order of a couple hundred, throughout my adult life. > > > >>How many of them were >>militants? > > > Irrelevant. We were talking about the Muslim culture, not extremist > culture. And you still don't get it. >> If you don't believe people of your own culture, >>why would you believe people who belong to a culture so >>alien that you can never hope to understand it? > Several reasons. Nothing of the following answers the question asked. But thanks for playing. It was supposed to be a wake up call, but it seems a simple question went right over your head. (Dare I say, again?) > 1) Many people of my own culture have no experience actually meeting and > knowing people from other cultures, so their "knowledge" of those other > cultures is at best third-hand. > 2) I know several good reasons for people of my own culture to lie (or, more > likely, to completely fail to understand the truth)...my president and his > political party, who are losing their grip on power in this country, and are > using the basest emotion, fear, to try to regain it. > > By your reasoning, I should not learn French from a Frenchman, since > somebody of my own culture who does not speak French at all is in a much > better position to be trusted to teach me the "real" French, and not some > made-up language to trick me into believing I've learned French. > > Yeah, believe whatever you like. And you accuse *me* of following lemmings > (although about what, I cannot figure out....) > > Eric Lucas > >
From: unsettled on 3 Nov 2006 18:50 Eeyore wrote: > > T Wake wrote: > > >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> >>There are *some* areas where there are different goods / services but there >>is certainly no shortage of selection. > > > Cheese ! God knows how many hundreds you can get here. The Americans certainly > don't have the same wealth of choice. Wine probably too - and BEER ! We're well > off for all of these. Obviously.
From: unsettled on 3 Nov 2006 19:03 Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: > > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>They seem to be doing better than the US with a lot less money for >>>>>>health care. >>>>> >>>>>Could it be the drug costs that make this difference? >>>> >>>>Why do so may US medical practicioners prescibe expensive drugs >>> >>>They don't. >>> >>> >>>>when cheaper >>>>generics are just as good for mnay things ? >>> >>>These days anybody with any kind of insurance have to use generic. >>> >>> >>>>It artificially inflates costs. That's not allowed in the NHS. >>> >>>Who is supposed to pay for the drug research? >> >>Mostly US citizens, of course. > > > Only the USA buys drugs ? > > You're as mad as the proverbial hatter. What's wrong with you? USA folks pay top dollar for the same medicines other people get for less. We've been discussing that to death in this thread. Our dollars pay for the research. That's a part of the IP that is exported without appropriate compensation. Places like Canada and UK are getting a free ride on our backs and complaining all the way. But then you're just a camel jockey, what would you know.
From: unsettled on 3 Nov 2006 19:10 Eeyore distorts as only a Muslim can: > unsettled wrote: > > >>Eeyore wrote: >> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Have you already forgotten the reason for the Arab Embargo ? >>>> >>>>Yes. I don't remember all the details. >>> >>> >>>It was because of western backing of Israel. Sound familiar ? Truth is that >>>Israel is the number one messmaker in the region. >> >>Now I know for sure you're a displaced camel jockey. > > > And I know for sure that you haven't the tiniest clue about history. > > " The 1973 oil crisis first began on October 17, 1973 when the Organization of > Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries (OAPEC), consisting of the Arab members of > OPEC plus Egypt and Syria, announced as a result of the ongoing Yom Kippur War, > that they would no longer ship petroleum to nations that had supported Israel in > its conflict with Syria and Egypt. This included the United States and its allies > in Western Europe. " > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Oil_Embargo > > It's no secret what happened. It must be pathological stupidity with you. "The war began on the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur with a surprise joint attack by Egypt and Syria crossing the cease-fire lines in the Sinai and Golan Heights, respectively" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War So the arabs start another war, they lose, *again*, then in a fit of pique punish the US, and here some 30+ years later you're supporting the Arab posture? Pathological all right. You're a camel jockey all right!
From: unsettled on 3 Nov 2006 19:12
T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:454B962A.4DD0FD81(a)hotmail.com... > >> >>T Wake wrote: >> >> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>> >>> >>>>Oh, I've heard of people going to Califoria (from Asia) and >>>>Boston and NYC from Europe to buy stuff. I had not realized >>>>that these shoppers had discovered that Mall. >>> >>>Wow. I am really, honestly, amazed by this. >>> >>>I can not speak for all people. I can not speak for all Europeans. I >>>can't >>>even speak for all Brits. However, most people I know would not fly to >>>the >>>US simply to shop. When they do go to the US on holiday (for example, I >>>have >>>relatives in New York and often go to Florida on holiday) they will shop >>>for >>>things. >>> >>>When people I know go to [Insert European Destination Here] on Holiday, >>>they >>>will often shop for things as well. >>> >>>Isn't it strange. >>> >>>Also, we actually do have shopping malls here in Europe. >>> >>>What a wonderful world we live in. >> >>I believe there may even be shopping malls in China now too ! >> >>I wonder if BAH and unsettled still think the Chinese all go round still >>in Mao >>style suits ? > > > It certainly wouldn't surprise me if they did. Classic pack mentality. It has been obvious for some time now. |