From: MooseFET on 4 Nov 2006 11:55 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: [...] > Sure. But preventative health care does not apply to the needs of > the old and the dying. It does apply to the needs of the old a great deal. Preventing a broken hip saves a huge amount of money. Preventing bone loss is very important in the elderly.
From: T Wake on 4 Nov 2006 11:55 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eihvrr$8ps_002(a)s792.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <454B8A9B.7C879864(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >> That is why I'm trying to point out that having insurance is >>> >> not a guarantee you will get access to treatment when you need it. >>> >> The only thing our politicians are trying to do is to make >>> >> the insurance available to all from a single payer, the US >>> >> government. This will cause a decrease in access. >>> > >>> >How ? >>> >>> Doctors are also avoiding taking on new Medicare patients because >>> they don't paid for the services delivered in a timely manner. I >>> don't know how long the delay is now, but Dukakis years had a >>> payment delay of 9 months to 2 years. That means that a >>> pharmacist or a doctor had to wait that long before he got >>> paid for a service he provided years before. >> >>So all you're doing here is criticising the failings of your current >>system. > Quite >>so. It needs radical overhaul. > > To go to a single payer system implies an expansion of the Medicare > system. So a national health insurer will not work well. Why not? > Congress even did something sensible and passed an extraordinary > insurance. The youngsteres who ran AARP caused their subscribers > to get it repealed. > > >> >>It's rare here to find a doctor who *doesn't* do NHS work. > > Is his license tied to volunteering? NHS work is not "volunteer" work.
From: T Wake on 4 Nov 2006 11:57 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:454CADD5.31704A27(a)hotmail.com... > > > unsettled wrote: > >> Eeyore wrote: >> >> >>>It's rare here to find a doctor who *doesn't* do NHS work. >> >> >> >>Is his license tied to volunteering? >> > >> > >> > Licence ? You mean his qualification as a doctor. That's dealt with by >> > the BMA ( >> > British Medical Association ) as it always has been. >> > >> > Most doctors here simply work for the NHS since it's the largest health >> > care >> > employer in the land. There's no compulsion to do so and you can work >> > in private >> > practice to or even both, just like any other job. >> >> The short answer to the question is that you don't know. > > What part of my answer didn't you understand ? Given Unsettled's previous levels of understanding - probably all of it. > No doctors have to 'volunteer' for anything. Where did you even get this > volunteer idea > ? "They" do not know what the NHS is. "They" think it is a charity or something.
From: T Wake on 4 Nov 2006 11:58 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:454C99F1.B208F5A0(a)hotmail.com... > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >So all you're doing here is criticising the failings of your current >> >system. >> >Quite so. It needs radical overhaul. >> >> To go to a single payer system implies an expansion of the Medicare >> system. So a national health insurer will not work well. > > The use of the word *so* implies some cause-effect relationship which you > have > failed to show. I'm sorry but simple assertions based on political > doctrine count > for nought. > > >> Congress even did something sensible and passed an extraordinary >> insurance. The youngsteres who ran AARP caused their subscribers >> to get it repealed. > > I know nothing about this. > > >> >It's rare here to find a doctor who *doesn't* do NHS work. >> >> Is his license tied to volunteering? > > Licence ? You mean his qualification as a doctor. That's dealt with by the > BMA ( > British Medical Association ) as it always has been. > > Most doctors here simply work for the NHS since it's the largest health > care > employer in the land. IIRC it is something like the third largest single employer in Europe (or the world or some such). Big old business the NHS :-) I am very much a fan of it.
From: unsettled on 4 Nov 2006 12:00
Jamie wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > >> >> unsettled wrote: >> >> >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I've been telling that the Democrat leadership are insane. >>> >>> >>> It is an appeasement repeat taken from from Britain's >>> history at the early stages of WW1 and WW2. We can't >>> defend liberty by appeasing those who would end it. >> >> >> >> You think there was appeasement before / during WW1 ? >> >> You have some funny ideas. >> >> Graham >> >> > Hey mate, talking about funny ideas! I'll bet he's one of those who believes Austria-Hungary fired the first shot in WW1. |