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From: unsettled on 4 Nov 2006 09:55 Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: > > >>Interestingly people like Eeyore also tend to believe that >>new drugs are simply riped off older drugs, so all is well >>in their little world. > > > *Some* of them are. > > Graham > Congratulations, you're beginning to see the light. Please don't stop there.
From: Eeyore on 4 Nov 2006 09:56 unsettled wrote: > When you check out UK's total tax structure the inefficiencies > become obvious. Sales tax alone is 17%, they call it VAT. VAT isn't 17.5% on everything. There's no VAT on food for example and energy ( electricity and gas ) is 5% IIRC. Even children's clothing is exempt. > We, > in the US, would consider their annual taxes on automobiles > outrageous, especially when coupled to their absurd gasoline > taxes. We'd consider your property taxes outrageous ! There is no tax on owned property here. Overall UK taxation is ~ 37% currently IIRC. It has typically hovered around 40% since WW2. This compares to typical figures of ~ 30% for the USA and ~ 50% for mainland Europe although I suspect the latter figure is reducing now. Now.... what percentage of an average US income goes on medical insurance and related costs ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Nov 2006 10:09 unsettled wrote: > But then they tout their "free" national health care. Heck, > they're too poor after paying all their taxes to be able > to afford much of anything, LOL. UK incomes aren't that much less than US. > and in the end they're paying > more for health care than we do, Let's see some numbers then ! I'm all for seeing a fair comparison ! > but it isn't visible to > them because the money trail is through government. ?76.4 bn according to recent figures. That's ?1273 per head of population. What are your numbers ? Can you get US comprehensive ( no exclusions ) medical insurance for $2418 regardless of age or medical history ? > Talk about pollution? I smelled coal fires in a residential > district in August 2002. I haven't smelled coal in the US > in residential use since the 1950's. BAH you asked about > pollution and wood fireplaces? They don't have much wood > left in UK, but they do have plenty of coal They aren't > bashful about burning it without pollution controls. Really ? It's quite hard to find a coal merchant these days in fact. There are 8 in my county for a population of just over 1 million. We have 'smokeless coal' btw. http://www.coaldelivery.co.uk/acatalog/smokeless_fuels_open_fires_multifuel_stoves.html I think there has to be a serious business oportunity to grow forest for fuel again, because you can offer carbon credits to get it started now when there would otherwise be no income. Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Nov 2006 10:12 unsettled wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > >>>It's rare here to find a doctor who *doesn't* do NHS work. > >> > >>Is his license tied to volunteering? > > > > > > Licence ? You mean his qualification as a doctor. That's dealt with by the BMA ( > > British Medical Association ) as it always has been. > > > > Most doctors here simply work for the NHS since it's the largest health care > > employer in the land. There's no compulsion to do so and you can work in private > > practice to or even both, just like any other job. > > The short answer to the question is that you don't know. What part of my answer didn't you understand ? No doctors have to 'volunteer' for anything. Where did you even get this volunteer idea ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Nov 2006 10:16
unsettled wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > > We like it that way since everyone gets covered. It's a very equitable system. > > If socialism were equitable, we'd have it in the US. You never know...... It took a while to get established here too ! The UK's not socialist btw - it's what we call a 'mixed economy' as are all the European economies. Mixed = capitalist and socialist ideas acting together. > The entire point of socialism is the involuntary > redistribution of wealth. > > If your NHS were equitable the poor would receive services > corresponding to their contribution, as would the wealthy. Eh ? > If your NHS were equitable there would be no physicians > in private practice. Would you prohibit physicians from private practice ? Graham |