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From: Eeyore on 4 Nov 2006 09:40 unsettled wrote: > Interestingly people like Eeyore also tend to believe that > new drugs are simply riped off older drugs, so all is well > in their little world. *Some* of them are. Graham
From: unsettled on 4 Nov 2006 09:43 Eeyore wrote: > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>It's a flat rate for any course of one single >>>drug which might be from 7 days to say 3 months. So if your treatment needs 2 >>>drugs you pay ?6.50 ea for them. >>> >>> >>>>What do they really cost? >>> >>>I've no idea. Usually more but not always since the NHS >>>makes extensive use of >>>generics which they ( and the pharmacists ) can buy in >>>bulk and get a good price on. >> >>This means that you don't have access to any improved drugs. > > > No. Where did I say we used generics *exclusively* ? Please *READ* what I wrote. > The NHS makes extensive use of generics where *suitable* to save costs. > > > >>The patent period, IRRC, in the US is 20 years. With your >>drug plan, you have to use 20-year old medical drug technology. > > > No. Read what I wrote. > > > >>>>From what >>>>I've read about UK social programs a lot of real costs are hidden >>>>because a lot is subsidized. >>> >>>That's the whole point. If your drugs cost say ?200 you still only pay ?6.50. >>>This means good health care is affordable for all regardless of income. >> >>So who is paying for the rest of the cost? $200-$6.50=$193.50 >>(I don't have a pound sign so I'll use dollars). > > > It comes from NHS funding. > > It's a shockingly socialist concept isn't it but even the political right here > recognise how well it works. The simple truth is that the NHS has transformed > health care in the UK compared to its pre-WW2 status. > > Life expectancy here is in fact a few years longer than the USA for example. > > > >>>The appointment with the doctor or consultant is free of course since they're >>>employed by the NHS ( actually these days the local Primary Care Trust ). >> >>Just because you don't pay for it does not mean there are no costs >>for that delivery of service. Somebody is paying for suppplies, >>labor, footprint, cleaning, disposing, etc. > > > Yes. The tax paying public does through National Insurance contributions and > general taxation. > > We like it that way since everyone gets covered. It's a very equitable system. If socialism were equitable, we'd have it in the US. The entire point of socialism is the involuntary redistribution of wealth. If your NHS were equitable the poor would receive services corresponding to their contribution, as would the wealthy. If your NHS were equitable there would be no physicians in private practice.
From: unsettled on 4 Nov 2006 09:50 Eeyore wrote: > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >> >>>When people I know go to [Insert European Destination Here] on Holiday, they >>>will often shop for things as well. >>> >>>Isn't it strange. >>> >>>Also, we actually do have shopping malls here in Europe. >>> >>>What a wonderful world we live in. >> >>Think about how mobile people how work are. When they >>go visit a foreign for their jobs, they experience new >>foods, products, etc. They bring back enough and their >>neighbors see the stuff or taste it. So now they would >>like to have some. The next time a friend of theirs goes >>to that country, he a grocery list. Eventually when the >>authors of the list go on vacation, part of the constraint >>of their plans is go somewhere so they can stock up on X >>product. > > > There's no real need to do that in the UK since we have the ingredients for most > world cooking available in the shops here. I never was able to find buttermilk in any shop or "supermarket." > That's just one aspect of having such a broad mix of races living here. > > Heck, I've even eaten traditional Zambian style cooking here ! > > Popular restaurants here include Chinese, Indian, Italian, Spanish, Greek, > Turkish, Thai, Japanese, French, Moroccan etc etc ..... There's even Swedish food > available ( at Ikea ! ) and you can find Swiss cooking !!! of all things at the > Swiss Cente in London. More 'exotic' eating out ( rather fewer restaurants ) > include Russian and Hungarian. > > Graham >
From: unsettled on 4 Nov 2006 09:53 Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: > > >>Eeyore wrote: >> >> >>>I'm simply pointing out the factual reasons for the 1973 oil embargo. >>> >>>Do you want to rewrite history ? >> >>No, I'd like for the likes of you to breathe, live in, >>and support the culture in which you live. > > > Since I do that just fine right now I don't need your help then do I ? I'm forced to conclude that you stand there and say, "What yellow brick road?".
From: unsettled on 4 Nov 2006 09:54
Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: > > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>>I've been telling that the Democrat leadership are insane. >> >>It is an appeasement repeat taken from from Britain's >>history at the early stages of WW1 and WW2. We can't >>defend liberty by appeasing those who would end it. > > > You think there was appeasement before / during WW1 ? > > You have some funny ideas. I'm forced to conclude you stand there ans say, "What yellow brick road?". |