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From: krw on 6 Nov 2006 21:41 In article <EDK3h.2696$r12.2149(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net says... > > "krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message > news:MPG.1fb933a7f3ac3f70989aa9(a)news.individual.net... > > > > It's really not all that different, except that the economy is > > *far* better. The '70s were horrid. > > It's very different. Ok, it's far better. Again, the '70s *SUCKED*. You may not remember the '70s, but I certainly do. > As an indication of the state of the entrepreneurial > spirit these days, it used to be possible to join a company as a mailroom > clerk, learn a few things, move up into technical jobs, through the > managerial ranks, and into a VPship or higher. This has nothing to do with (actually the opposite of) entrepreneurial spirit. Entrepeneurs don't work for others. <duh> > That cannot happen these days in most industries, Of course not. Sheesh, it was pretty hard to start a car company in the '70s too. ...or steel companies. New companies can't push out entrenched companies. What a surprise! ...then there is WallyWorld. > because they will not hire anybody into the > technical ranks that doesn't have the pre-defined level of education, PhD or > BS. Your focus is *VERY* narrow. You can't see beyond your expectations of a couple of decades ago. Look around. The world isn't all that bad. > I'll argue that that narrow-minded definition of "capable" is exactly > the same sort of mindset that prevents small businesses from blooming into > new industries. Are you telling me that your definition of <the opposite of> "capable" is a tautology? -- Keith
From: krw on 6 Nov 2006 21:44 In article <454FACD9.A6E6AA8D(a)hotmail.com>, rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > > > "Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message > > > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > [.... wood burning stove ....] > > >>>A good stove can be 90% efficient. > > >> > > >>That's not good enough if you're burning wood. > > > > > > I have an uncle who heats his house with wood only. Several of his > > > neighbors also heat with wood. The trees are grown in a "managed wood > > > lot" for fuel purpose. The wood costs less than other fuels even if you > > > include the cost of felling and splitting. > > > > How is the odor? I suspect that's her main point. > > Dry wood burns very cleanly. It still stinks to hell. I burn some in a fairly efficient stove, but unless there is a wind blowing it's a mess. It stinks if it's still, > And I must install that stove soon ! Come on, you Europeons burned all your wood a half-eon ago. -- Keith
From: lucasea on 6 Nov 2006 21:57 "krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message news:MPG.1fb9bc62c76d366d989aaf(a)news.individual.net... > In article <EDK3h.2696$r12.2149(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net says... >> >> "krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message >> news:MPG.1fb933a7f3ac3f70989aa9(a)news.individual.net... >> > >> > It's really not all that different, except that the economy is >> > *far* better. The '70s were horrid. >> >> It's very different. > > Ok, it's far better. Again, the '70s *SUCKED*. You may not > remember the '70s, but I certainly do. Sure I do, and I agree--it was a bad time. >> As an indication of the state of the entrepreneurial >> spirit these days, it used to be possible to join a company as a mailroom >> clerk, learn a few things, move up into technical jobs, through the >> managerial ranks, and into a VPship or higher. > > This has nothing to do with (actually the opposite of) > entrepreneurial spirit. It has everything to do with the entrepreneurial spirit. > Entrepeneurs don't work for others. <duh> Bullshit. Definition: innovator, risk-taker. There are entrepreneurs who work for themselves, and there are entrepreneurs who work for others. <duh> >> That cannot happen these days in most industries, > > Of course not. Sheesh, it was pretty hard to start a car company > in the '70s too. All I'm saying is, that it is harder now, in many industries. ...or steel companies. New companies can't push > out entrenched companies. What a surprise! ...then there is > WallyWorld. > > >> because they will not hire anybody into the >> technical ranks that doesn't have the pre-defined level of education, PhD >> or >> BS. > > Your focus is *VERY* narrow. You can't see beyond your > expectations of a couple of decades ago. Look around. The world > isn't all that bad. Never said it was. >> I'll argue that that narrow-minded definition of "capable" is exactly >> the same sort of mindset that prevents small businesses from blooming >> into >> new industries. > > Are you telling me that your definition of <the opposite of> > "capable" is a tautology? What the hell are you on about? Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 6 Nov 2006 22:01 "krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message news:MPG.1fb9bd1d862e8abb989ab0(a)news.individual.net... > >> Dry wood burns very cleanly. > > It still stinks to hell. Not if you're using a good, modern wood stove, and good dry (particularly hard) wood. > I burn some in a fairly efficient stove, It's not just efficiency, it's also related to pollution control devices. > but unless there is a wind blowing it's a mess. It stinks if it's > still, Not if you're using a good, modern wood stove, and good dry (particularly hard) wood. > Come on, you Europeons burned all your wood a half-eon ago. You really do need to see somewhere besides the inside of your living room, if you're going to comment on what it's like in other places. Eric Lucas
From: Eeyore on 6 Nov 2006 22:21
krw wrote: > In article <454FACD9.A6E6AA8D(a)hotmail.com>, > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > And I must install that stove soon ! > > Come on, you Europeons burned all your wood a half-eon ago. There's still wood to burn. It's now being promoted again for heating your house. I see wood pellets have arrived here too. Graham |