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From: Ben Newsam on 7 Nov 2006 08:08 On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 04:39:26 -0600, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >There's nothing as effective as example and first >hand experience to inject the democracy meme into >a society. And your evidence for this is...? How many societies have you "injected" with anything? In case you're thinking about it, please don't come over here injecting us with anything, thank you very much.
From: unsettled on 7 Nov 2006 09:43 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <62167$454e14f0$49ecf9b$23713(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>I wish you would stop the namecalling bullshit. It's taking >>>too long trying to find the cogent posts that I want to read. >> >>You probably ought to extend the same courtesy to a person >>who is more on your team than not that you extend to the >>idiots you're arguing with. > You waste other people's time and ASCII bit storage. And it's boring to me. This discussion, let alone this world, doesn't revolve around you. >>>As a result, I'm missing important stuff. >>Perhaps you should understand that to others this is a >>hobby. > In the case of this topic, it will kill them. In my case, and perhaps yours as well, something else will take care of that. We aren't experiencing an immediacy.
From: lucasea on 7 Nov 2006 09:50 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:92d5d$45506124$4fe724c$5573(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> "Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message >> news:eip1jv$l49$2(a)blue.rahul.net... >> >>>In article <Au2dnWKEQ78ZLNLYRVnyvw(a)pipex.net>, >>>T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>news:454FAB77.221D4C96(a)hotmail.com... >>> >>>[....] >>> >>>>>Nobody's appeasing anyone not suggesting they should do. >>>> >>>>unsettled (and those like him) have no case to put forward. As a result >>>>they >>>>have to rely on scare terms such as the ubiquitous "Nazi" reference, >>>>mixed >>>>in with what they view as cutting insults. >>>> >>>>How can you be an appeaser when there is no Nazi state to appease? >>> >>>There really is something that looks a lot like appeasing. Closing the >>>Prince Sultan Airbase in 2003 sort of quacks like appeasement of the >>>extremists. >> >> >> The extremists I think we really need to stop appeasing are the Religious >> Right and the Republicans who they are currently leading around by the >> nose. Tomorrow's our chance. > > > Perhaps you're talking about the people who have and > maintain taditional American values. You know, the > folks who made America great in the first place! > The America that has been handed to you on a silver > platter, in fact. > > I'm happy to appease them forever. Their ideology has > withstood the test of time, while yours keeps failing > only to be recycled by the next generation. I would put that differently. Every few years, the population gets tired of the smug and self-sanctimonious preachings of those who claim to be the arbiters of "traditional American values", and try to get our society to evolve in the direction of its citizens *thinking*, rather than reacting at a gut level to their prejudices and hatreds. And then the self-sanctimonious fear- and hate-mongers among us feel their grip on society slipping, and redouble their efforts to pander to the prejudices and basest emotions of the population--the "least common denominator", as it were. I don't expect it to stick this time either--but it's still worth trying. Eric Lucas
From: Eeyore on 7 Nov 2006 09:55 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > > >Right now, a number of Americans are going to ... India for medical care. > >Care to explain why? > > Because our medical system is changing to a national health run > by many chiefs. Since all that paper pushing has to be funded, > monies are going to bureaucracies rather than infrastructure > and labor. The workers are now union; so that adds to labor costs. > All access to medical help is done through insurance company > doors. Doctors are no longer small business[wo]men and the business > is no longer a local business. Now would you care to explain why ppl are going to Indai for medical care ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 7 Nov 2006 09:56
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Yeah, so? That bitterness is a good summary of those peoples' personal > >> >> >experiences. How does that invalidate the study? > >> >> > >> >> The conclusions from the data showed the opposite. > >> > > >> >Eh ? Do explain what you mean. > >> > >> I did; I tried. The conclusions of the study were that people > >> didn't have financial problems after retirement. > > > >I assume you mean after work or upon retirement ? I expect you wouldn't have > >any financial problems when pushing up the daisies ! > > > > > >> It did not > >> show that people had to reduce their styles of living at least > >> several levels because the income was not enough. > > > >Whilst retirement plans were generous I'm sure that might be true. Given the > >recent cliff-like fall in the value of annuities it seems that ppl retiring > >in the futiure are going to have a much rockier ride. > > Stop. I was talking about a study done in 1969. > > The term "retirement plan" didn't exist yet. Ppl didn't retire in 1969 ? Graham |