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From: Ken Smith on 7 Nov 2006 05:55 In article <92d5d$45506124$4fe724c$5573(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: [....] >> The extremists I think we really need to stop appeasing are the Religious >> Right and the Republicans who they are currently leading around by the nose. >> Tomorrow's our chance. > > >Perhaps you're talking about the people who have and >maintain taditional American values. What traditional American values would these be? There never was a golden age. It is a myth we all like to belive but if you look at the past you find the horrors of today plus some. > You know, the >folks who made America great in the first place! Read up on Franklin. You will find that he and most of the others who made America great in the first place would make the religious right blanch. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: unsettled on 7 Nov 2006 06:05 Ken Smith wrote: > In article <92d5d$45506124$4fe724c$5573(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > > [....] > >>>The extremists I think we really need to stop appeasing are the Religious >>>Right and the Republicans who they are currently leading around by the nose. >>>Tomorrow's our chance. >> >> >>Perhaps you're talking about the people who have and >>maintain taditional American values. > > > What traditional American values would these be? There never was a > golden age. It is a myth we all like to belive but if you look at the > past you find the horrors of today plus some. > > >>You know, the >>folks who made America great in the first place! > > > Read up on Franklin. You will find that he and most of the others who > made America great in the first place would make the religious right > blanch. What you've done this morning in two posts is to disclose the low esteem in which you hold people. You seem to have some idea that the base element always prevails. The facts are somewhat different. Each human exhibits some degree of discontinuity in how they conduct their lives. Franklin did manage to achieve some pretty significant things, especially for someone whose first calling was as a tradesman/printer.
From: jmfbahciv on 7 Nov 2006 06:44 In article <einool$7gj$10(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <eikp37$8qk_001(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>In article <QqSdnTiCZpUVWtHYRVnyuQ(a)pipex.net>, >> >>Neither will work efficiently nor deliver service on demand. You >>have to plan how to be sick or have somebody do it for you. That >>is why people who are very ill have to have a patient advocate. >>These were not needed before this medical insurance business >>became a right instead of a benefit. >> >>Canada's system does not work for a certain class of services. >>People who need those services were able to come to the US and >>get them in a timely manner. When the US converts to a >>single payer system, like Canada, the Canadians and the USians >>who need these services will have to go to another country >>whose medical infrastructure will provide. > >Right now, a number of Americans are going to ... India for medical care. >Care to explain why? Because our medical system is changing to a national health run by many chiefs. Since all that paper pushing has to be funded, monies are going to bureaucracies rather than infrastructure and labor. The workers are now union; so that adds to labor costs. All access to medical help is done through insurance company doors. Doctors are no longer small business[wo]men and the business is no longer a local business. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 7 Nov 2006 06:46 In article <454DF118.F39F28C9(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Yeah, so? That bitterness is a good summary of those peoples' personal >> >> >experiences. How does that invalidate the study? >> >> >> >> The conclusions from the data showed the opposite. >> > >> >Eh ? Do explain what you mean. >> >> I did; I tried. The conclusions of the study were that people >> didn't have financial problems after retirement. > >I assume you mean after work or upon retirement ? I expect you wouldn't have >any financial problems when pushing up the daisies ! > > >> It did not >> show that people had to reduce their styles of living at least >> several levels because the income was not enough. > >Whilst retirement plans were generous I'm sure that might be true. Given the >recent cliff-like fall in the value of annuities it seems that ppl retiring in >the futiure are going to have a much rockier ride. Stop. I was talking about a study done in 1969. The term "retirement plan" didn't exist yet. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 7 Nov 2006 06:49
In article <pIOdnfrlz6SuidPYnZ2dnUVZ8tadnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:eikpng$8qk_005(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <KZa3h.5012$B31.2822(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message >>>news:SJqdneZANLpQVNHYnZ2dnUVZ8q-dnZ2d(a)pipex.net... >>>> >>>>> It isn't just one or two. It is everyone I listened to plus >>>>> relatives of in-laws who needed the service. >>>> >>>> How many did you listen to? How many relatives? What percentage of the >>>> total did this reflect? How did you ensure your sample was >>>> representative >>>> and not just people with complaints? >>>> >>>>> The only ones >>>>> who thought Canada's medical system was wonderful were those >>>>> husbands who were very, very sick. >>>> >>>> How can you make a claim like this? Did you speak to _every_ one? >>>> >>>> You were the first to complain about the data sample methods and >>>> conclusions in the Lancet report, yet here you seem to be more than >>>> happy >>>> to weigh personal anecdote over data. >>> >>>Oh, but she's much better at it, >> >> I'm not only better at it, but I'm very, very, very good doing this >> kind of work. > >What, making numbers up? Analyzing problems on very little data or usually no hard data. There is valuable information in the kinds of data that is absent. /BAH |