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From: SteveH on 20 Mar 2010 18:25 Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > > And you dodged the question - people don't want to have to learn about > > the ugly internals of a computer simply to write a letter to the > > milkman, in much the same way that I neither know nor care how an > > internal combustion engine works yet I still drive 80 miles most days. > > They don't need to learn the hardware but they do need to learn the > software. > > You may not know how the combustion engine works but you were taught how > to operate the car and basic maintenance is even a requirement of the > driving test now. Bad example. A user should only need to know how to install and operate software. They shouldn't need to know how to tweak the BIOS or edit .conf files etc. I can't remember the last time I used the terminal for anything bar quickly uploading single files to an FTP server. It all 'just works' and I want to keep it that way. -- SteveH
From: SteveH on 20 Mar 2010 19:55 James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: > > My Air looks brand new, although it's now over 12 months old. > > I never did buy an air. Wish I had in some ways. I'd like a mac without > a screen entirely so that the battery could last longer. Never will > happen though. I can remove the dead screen from my old Pismo.... 'plenty bargain, much cheapness!' -- SteveH
From: Geoff Berrow on 20 Mar 2010 20:31 On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:16:43 +0000, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: >p.s. I'll make my own way there if you don't mind. Being filmed by you >doing that is one thing but being seen in an Alfa or the Prius (or >with you) would be just too embarrassing. And what's wrong with being seen in an Alfa? :-) -- Geoff Berrow (Put thecat out to email) It's only Usenet, no one dies. My opinions, not the committee's, mine. Simple RFDs www.4theweb.co.uk/rfdmaker
From: Woody on 20 Mar 2010 20:38 Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > On 20/03/2010 21:19, James Jolley wrote: > > I'm just saying that you are in effect paying a fair amount of money for > something that's basically the same as a Linux distro but doesn't have > anything above one to make it worth the price. Of course it does, for a lot of people. I have quite a few macs, and they are all worth the price. Obviously it appears what is value to me is not value to you and vice versa. > Certainly, OS X includes > a LOT of Open Source projects such as SAMBA and CUPS for a start. Who cares? I don't and what is more important, I don't have to. My experience of setting samba up has always been one of frustration. I haven't had that frustration on the mac, so that is worth it to me. > > I'm surprised at this. Many developers love working with OS x and > > there's got to be a reason for this. > > > > The hardware is controlled. It is far easier to develop software when > you know what hardware is going to be using it. Actually for most software that you would develop (talking as a software developer here), that is as close to irrelevant as it can be, unless you are writing hardware device drivers. When you are developing application level software, the hardware is mostly taken care of by the operating system and you deal with the operating system. I tried to write some software for maemo recently, but the UI stuff drove me up the wall, it was so restrictive. I didn't bother in the end. I was writing something that would have been a 5 minute job on an iPhone or OSX, or even windows. -- Woody www.alienrat.com
From: Woody on 20 Mar 2010 20:40
Geoff Berrow <blthecat(a)ckdog.co.uk> wrote: > On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:16:43 +0000, T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > > >p.s. I'll make my own way there if you don't mind. Being filmed by you > >doing that is one thing but being seen in an Alfa or the Prius (or > >with you) would be just too embarrassing. > > And what's wrong with being seen in an Alfa? People might think it was yours! -- Woody www.alienrat.com |