From: Jim on
James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote:

> > Don't worry, it's Conor, it's what he does.
>
> Oh frigging hell. This another one I should have avoided. Concerned
> that coming back again may have caused more trouble again. I believe in
> being upfront about OS differences, but nobody can deny the viability
> of OS X for the blind these days, especially as the installation is
> selfvoiceing.

Ach, don't worry about it. Good to have you back.

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From: James Jolley on
On 2010-03-20 19:03:26 +0000, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> said:

> On 20/03/2010 16:15, Bernard Peek wrote:
>
>> One of the things to note is that the more experience you have with
>> Windows or Mac systems the harder you may find it to work with Linux.
>
> Actually that's partially wrong. The more experience you have with Mac
> OS X, the better you'll get on with Linux. Certainly my Linux
> experience made the switch to OS X virtually seamless.

Funny, I came from a unix based background when I worked in Bristol.
Rolls Roice there let me hook up my notetaker and use the device as a
talking terminal. Those were the days, never again.

Best

-James-

From: James Jolley on
On 2010-03-20 20:12:32 +0000, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> said:

> On 20/03/2010 20:01, Jim wrote:
>> Conor<conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm sure you'll enjoy an endless mutual wankathon over the deficiencies
>>>> of OSX.
>>>
>>> I'm just not trying to claim it is the perfect OS others are.
>>
>> Who are these 'others'? Most people here are fully aware of both the
>> strong and the weak points of OSX.
>>
>> Jim
>
> There has been more than a little fanboism at the slightest whiff of a
> criticism.

Now this is certainly unfair. I know what it's like to have no access
to stuff. It's a question of finding your own solutions and the current
OS X works fine for me.

From: James Jolley on
On 2010-03-20 20:13:10 +0000, Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> said:

> On 20/03/2010 20:04, Jim wrote:
>
>>> Sadly, like PnP, it'll mean people have one less reason to actually
>>> learn something about the equipment they're using.
>>
>> Why should they have to? Most people use a computer to _get things
>> done_, not twiddle endlessly with conf files and learn x86 assembler.
>>
>
> Because in order to use pretty much everything with electric running
> through it, its a good idea to RTFM.

Assuming that the "M" bit is in an accessible format. When I opened up
the macbook I bought, I turned it on, got a message about "Mac OS X
includes VoiceOVer....", was asked to hit a key if I didn't know how to
use VO and learnt that way. Nothing like instant gratification. Try
that with Squorca.

From: Jim on
Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote:

> > Conor is right much of the time, but refuses to accept other people's
> > experiences and has absolutely no interest in social graces.
>
> Should fit in here very well then! ;-)

[laugh!]

Jim
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