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From: Ben Shimmin on 20 Mar 2010 12:29 Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk>: [...] > As a newcomer to Mac OS X, I'm more than a little pissed that it is > barely much better than Ubuntu and in some cases it is worse, especially > with Apples reluctance to even acknowledge yet alone fix 20 exploits > currently out in the wild. Yes, it is dreadfully remiss of Apple not to acknowledge 20 zero-day vulnerabilities they haven't actually been told about yet. Welcome to the group, Conor! b. -- <bas(a)bas.me.uk> <URL:http://bas.me.uk/> `Zombies are defined by behavior and can be "explained" by many handy shortcuts: the supernatural, radiation, a virus, space visitors, secret weapons, a Harvard education and so on.' -- Roger Ebert
From: SteveH on 20 Mar 2010 12:49 Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > > > > Because for all its faults OS X is still about 100x easier to use than > > > any Linux. > > > > > > And yes, I've tried a few. > > > > > Any recently? > > Yes. Current SuSE+whatever-KDE-is-current-this-week. > > Took me 20mins to work out how to set the onboard ethernet to DHCP or, > in fact, exist. This on a fairly standard 2 or 3year old Fujitsu tower. > No weird hardware. > > It's a mess. It's a very _pretty_ mess, granted, but it's still a mess. I've managed to get a 'Netbook Remix' installed on my Acer Aspire. It never gets used as it's a whole order of magnitude less useful than Windows Vista, which is the worst Windows OS since Me. -- SteveH
From: T i m on 20 Mar 2010 13:01 On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:22:20 +0000, jim(a)magrathea.plus.com (Jim) wrote: >Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > >> > Because for all its faults OS X is still about 100x easier to use than >> > any Linux. >> > >> > And yes, I've tried a few. >> > >> Any recently? > >Yes. Current SuSE+whatever-KDE-is-current-this-week. > >Took me 20mins to work out how to set the onboard ethernet to DHCP or, >in fact, exist. This on a fairly standard 2 or 3year old Fujitsu tower. >No weird hardware. But couldn't that say more about that distro of Linux than Linux itself? I happen to have Ubuntu 9.1 open here and it's probably as easy (to do the DHCP thing) as it is on Windows and OSX (for me). > >It's a mess. It's a very _pretty_ mess, granted, but it's still a mess. For me it's only 'difficult' (not sure if that's what you call a mess) is you have to go to the terminal as it's not intuitive. I know very little about Linux compared with the 'typical' Linux / Unix user but have still managed to easily install Ubuntu on a wide range of hardware and have it all work (and no small part of that being that it does most of it itself). ;-) If you are referring to how it 'looks' then I really can't see the problem (but we already know that). So, for something that's free and will run on nearly an infinite combination of hardware (unlike Apple OS's (unhacked) on only Apple hardware for example) then think it's pretty good. I wouldn't think it was pretty good if it cost more than a trivial amount, didn't run on loads of hardware or didn't work. Cheers, T i m
From: Conor on 20 Mar 2010 14:56 On 20/03/2010 15:22, Jim wrote: > Conor<conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > >>> Because for all its faults OS X is still about 100x easier to use than >>> any Linux. >>> >>> And yes, I've tried a few. >>> >> Any recently? > > Yes. Current SuSE+whatever-KDE-is-current-this-week. > > Took me 20mins to work out how to set the onboard ethernet to DHCP or, > in fact, exist. This on a fairly standard 2 or 3year old Fujitsu tower. > No weird hardware. > > It's a mess. It's a very _pretty_ mess, granted, but it's still a mess. So you've not tried a Gnome release then? Try the latest Ubuntu. And you're talking bullshit about your claim regarding the DHCP. -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Conor on 20 Mar 2010 15:00
On 20/03/2010 15:22, Jim wrote: > Conor<conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > >> The Gnome desktop is very similar as Mac OS X. I can only assume you've >> not used it recently. In fact, some things are actually easier to do >> with Gnome. > > James Jolley is blind. Literally, actually blind. As in 'has no sight'. > > How does a modern Gnome or KDE desktop cope with that? Honest question, > I genuinely don't know the answer. Very well. Orca comes with Ubuntu and works on all Gnome desktops. Orca is a free, open source, flexible, extensible, and powerful assistive technology for people with visual impairments. Using various combinations of speech synthesis, Braille, and magnification, Orca helps provide access to applications and toolkits that support the AT-SPI (e.g., the GNOME desktop). Have a read at all the stuff implemented in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility#Visual%20Impairments -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally. |